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Old 09-05-2008, 03:44 PM
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Default "Genisis" CERN Lab. Geneva Switzerland

I have mentioned this scientific experiment before somewhere...
I recently read that this machine will soon be fired up, and scientists are getting very excited.
Something about this has really caught my attention.
A feeling, a very strong feeling.
This "machine" is capable of ripping matter apart. They believe that it will lead to the discovery of many new things about time and space, the universe AND will reveal EXTRA dimensions.
I have a gut feeling that this technology (I wonder where it came from ?) will be the catalyst for 2012.
This machine is capable of stopping time, accelerating time, and slowing time down.
hmmm... imagine.
I guess it's logo should read...."All Time Is Now".
as a little aside, Genisis contains the word...Isis.
I think we can accept that the Sci fi fantasy of "star Gate" is NOW.
All the theories about 2012, and the approaching new "awareness" and massive changes to our planet and our consciousness may actually come about by the experiments conducted at CERN.
(oops the word concern contains CERN.)
WE may actually be the designers and creators of all that will come about.
I must admit I am a little uneasy about this kind of power in the hands of human beings who still have their free will.
I hope that this "science" is used more "intelligently" than the last amazing discoveries about Atoms.
ATOM BOMB..anyone ?
I wonder if Shirley is going to pop over to Switzerland for a sticky beak at this thing while she is in europe ?
Anyone else have any feelings or idea's about this ?
There is a lot more that scientists are expecting to use this machine for...they are going to recreate a big bang, and will be examining "dark matter".
Do you think the mass sightings of star craft/visitors could have anything to do with this machine ?
I personally think it could be a very big reason for the universe to be nervous or even celebrating.
Am not sure which...just yet.
any thoughts.???
peace
J
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:08 PM
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J
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:39 PM
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Interesting Jordan, not only did we think to post on the same topic, but have the same thoughts about its connection to UFOs and aliens.

Yes, with this in operation, 2008 is supposed to be ground zero for time travel. Have you ever heard of John Titor, the time traveler? He made himself known on the web, claiming to be a time traveler from our future (2036), sent back on a government time travel project. Some of his predictions have come true, some have not, which was conveniently blamed on parallel universes and alternate realities. One of his predictions was about CERN:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread124980/pg1

John Titor predicted that the CERN insisutution would accidentally discover the technology that allows for time travel. So far, his predictions have been tracking well with reality...CERN is now underway building their biggest-ever proton-proton collider. Some have now pointed out that one result might be the creation of "Mini Black Holes", or as John Titor called them...microsingularities...
John Titor: ... the major breakthrough happens at CERN ...The creation of microsigularities...its a black hole about the size of an electron...

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Jordan, maybe the recent explosion of UFO sightings have something to do with CERN - weak conjecture but just musing (people online have mused similar thoughts too). I just googled UFO sightings and CERN and have come up with one discussion about UFOs sighted over CERN.

http://www.ufoseek.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2529

Perhaps, some of the UFOs are time travelers from our future? or even from the past?? Maybe they are here to make sure that the CERN experiments are carried out properly, giving birth to time travel, thus avoiding the time travel paradox - that is ensuring their own time traveling ability. Or maybe they are just curious, or perhaps concerned - as they have been about nuclear missle silos.

I don't think there is much to be feared. Frontiers of science have always been saddled with fear due to lack of understanding. I don't know understand most of the particles they are looking for: boson, stranglets, black holes....whatever!!! Exciting nevertheless and fun to speculate on the fears.

I'll be in Europe in 1.5 weeks (about the same time as Shirley!), so we will let you guys know as soon as possible if we see any large black masses devouring buildings, streets, gelato stands, and ancient ruins.



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Old 09-05-2008, 11:39 PM
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dear Zen,
no i am not really fearful, just wary.
I also had a conversation with the pookster about UFO's being (we humans) from our past and /or our future...just after I posted to you.
I had been thinking about CERN and other things like Ooparts and time travel/time shifts etc...which i have talked about in another thread here today, with Michele tusa.
I believe that CERN is of conCERN because I don't think that scientists really know what may happen once they start fracking around with time.
I really think that the "shift" that so many New agers speak about is somehow connected to this "creation" of time and space at CERN.
The SHIFT that is expected to shake us all up and change the world and universe as we know it could very easily start with the deliberate creation of tiny black holes, dark Matter, or even the opening up of other dimensions.
I seem to recall that when atomic scientists were fracking around with splitting atoms no one in the general population really understood the science, so were not really concerned at all....and when gene splicing was first used with little seeds and insects...who cared ?
The money and expertise attached to this project is startling.
Imagine if the scientists and governments of the world had chosen to spend this time and energy on solving our dependence on Fossil fuel ?
Imagine !
Or if the experts and financiers had chosen to put their considerable energy and expertise behine the problem of world hunger, or the environment ?
Don't you think it interesting that all this money has been poured into a project that smashes Atoms ?
Something a bit fishy about the whole thing.
Do you think that a little grey visitor may have sold some of the idea to us ?
The planetary alignment in 2012 could also have a lot to do with what the actual experiment is going to be....
Do you think the general public are told all that this machine will be used for ?
Really ?
At the moment they are just getting hardons about Big Bang particles....but knowing those nerdy guys.....they are looking forward to much bigger and boom boomier things than that.
Why have such a big brain and not get to fiddle around seeking all the big answers ?
If God could do it...why not them ?
My gut feeling about this still persists.
Something is up, and time is about to be fracked.
see you, like...yesterday !
Peace
J
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:56 AM
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From what I understand, this machine will only show them shadows of the 10 or 26 dimensions ...and it's not going to be anytime soon. From what I understand, it is so expensive that it would take the entire gross product of the entire planet to run the machine.

But, it is interesting that it should be connected with 2012. But, then there is that old joke about the Redneck Scientist...how does it go..something about all those exploding stars in the universe may be some Redneck Scientist getting his comeuppance when he says, Hey Ya'll...Watch This...BANG!
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Old 09-06-2008, 10:19 AM
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dear Zen,
no i am not really fearful, just wary.
I also had a conversation with the pookster about UFO's being (we humans) from our past and /or our future...just after I posted to you.
I had been thinking about CERN and other things like Ooparts and time travel/time shifts etc...which i have talked about in another thread here today, with Michele tusa.
I believe that CERN is of conCERN because I don't think that scientists really know what may happen once they start fracking around with time.
I really think that the "shift" that so many New agers speak about is somehow connected to this "creation" of time and space at CERN.
The SHIFT that is expected to shake us all up and change the world and universe as we know it could very easily start with the deliberate creation of tiny black holes, dark Matter, or even the opening up of other dimensions.
I seem to recall that when atomic scientists were fracking around with splitting atoms no one in the general population really understood the science, so were not really concerned at all....and when gene splicing was first used with little seeds and insects...who cared ?
The money and expertise attached to this project is startling.
Imagine if the scientists and governments of the world had chosen to spend this time and energy on solving our dependence on Fossil fuel ?
Imagine !
Or if the experts and financiers had chosen to put their considerable energy and expertise behine the problem of world hunger, or the environment ?
Don't you think it interesting that all this money has been poured into a project that smashes Atoms ?
Something a bit fishy about the whole thing.
Do you think that a little grey visitor may have sold some of the idea to us ?
The planetary alignment in 2012 could also have a lot to do with what the actual experiment is going to be....
Do you think the general public are told all that this machine will be used for ?
Really ?
At the moment they are just getting hardons about Big Bang particles....but knowing those nerdy guys.....they are looking forward to much bigger and boom boomier things than that.
Why have such a big brain and not get to fiddle around seeking all the big answers ?
If God could do it...why not them ?
My gut feeling about this still persists.
Something is up, and time is about to be fracked.
see you, like...yesterday !
Peace
J


Jordie, tons of money was poured into the Hadron Collider/CERN. Construction of a similar collider of the same scope began in the States, but the costs were so high, it became prohibitive and was abandoned.

It's interesting that scientists have argued in favor and against the experiments of CERN. Don't know about the qualifications of either side. But I find this uncertainty all rather exciting because it really is the frontier of science, which can lead to possibilities we have only dreamed of in science fiction.

Did the greys seed this idea? Possibly, it is alleged they seeded other modern technologies. But we have to look at the history of particle colliders - there has been a progression. I don't know really know anything about it, except they just gets bigger and bigger.

Perhaps the Hadron Collider is a destinational landmark in our timespace continuum, which will open a gateway to other dimensions, allowing higher energies or beings to help guide us to higher states of being. Yes, fantasy.
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:06 PM
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Dearest zenner,
well, sure..science must move forward.
And it is exciting to be at this stage in science....but at what cost ?
It is glaringly obvious that our spiritual is not in step with our science.
I think we may find that We as humans are not SPIRITUALLY ready for what will be scientifically discovered.
It will take them a few years to get to the spooky stuff, probably around 2012 (!) but they will continue to frack with stuff that they have very little spiritual understanding of.
AND, as you say about the cost of the thing......There is surely something else that they may be after, that we are not going to be told ?
I will be watching CERN with great interest.
Peace in OUR time.
J
P.S have fun overseas !
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:32 AM
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Dearest zenner,
well, sure..science must move forward.
And it is exciting to be at this stage in science....but at what cost ?
It is glaringly obvious that our spiritual is not in step with our science.
I think we may find that We as humans are not SPIRITUALLY ready for what will be scientifically discovered.
It will take them a few years to get to the spooky stuff, probably around 2012 (!) but they will continue to frack with stuff that they have very little spiritual understanding of.
AND, as you say about the cost of the thing......There is surely something else that they may be after, that we are not going to be told ?
I will be watching CERN with great interest.
Peace in OUR time.
J
P.S have fun overseas !


I agree with your statement that spiritual development is/may not be keeping pace with technological advancement. And I fear that the technology resulting from CERN experiments, if any, can be used unethically or as advanced weaponry.

Thanks for the well-wishes for my trip. I am excited!

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Old 09-09-2008, 02:03 PM
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Dear richard,
Thanks for adding to the information pot in other threads.
I had a very strong feeling that all that energy and money were actually devoted to a lot more than they are telling.
Please keep us posted...
peace
J
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Interestingly the front page of the National Post today is talking about this. The headline is "Science experiment could swallow Earth, Critics say. Is the snd nigh?

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_....html?id=777940

The title itself is enough to ponder about.
xo Froggie
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