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Old 07-07-2012, 06:52 PM
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Shirley mentioned on fb how we can consider our past lives and how it can help us in this life. I am still new to all this, and learning, but I believe that there is something to it.

When I was a child, around 10 years old- I was washing my face and looked in the mirror. I don't know if it was like a vision or a dream or what the heck it was. But I remember this: My face was changing, and my hair changed to 2 braids, reddish color, and my eye color changed from brown to blue, and freckles came on my face across my nose. And then it was like something around me (not necessarily verbal), was saying that it was "time to change". I remember, I did feel resentment about having to "change" or "transform" (for lack of a better word), so soon. But I will never forget that, it was so real, it was like a really quick like flash or vision or something. Which I have had many times throughout my life- these "quick movie type flashes" I call them, because I don't know what they are. But when Shirley posted that message on her wall, this memory came back to me. A lot of esoteric things have happened to me in my life that I cannot understand. I know, that my mother said I was like talking to angels or something when I was like 5- she heard me. I sort of remember something like that.

This life seems to me like a big halogram (is the only way I can describe it), like the past, present and future are all folded upon itself like a folded tortilla, and sometimes these portals of access allow us to experience a different dimension for a very brief period of time. Like it is not a linear continuum, like it is more like a cirlce or spheric situation- with portals. That is how our higher self knows the beginning from the end- because it is all the same. (I think)

Somehow, I have a really strong connection to Egypt also. I don't know why. I was always intrigued with Egyptology and all those artifacts. I can even tell the difference between the chariot wheels from different dynasties. I saw a friends photos of "The Valley of the Kings" and it instantly felt like home or familiar.

I don't understand all this, and my mother, and siblings and last sibling will soon be on the other side of the rainbow. Everyone is passing away before they made 53 years old. I am 51 now. I am the last one left. It helps me to not be afraid, because I know that there is something more. But I dont understand how these past lives (if there are), can help me here or what is the purpose of it all. I know and have been told that I am an old soul, and that we choose our lives here- why would I choose to come into a family that everyone dies so young? Maybe I am searching. I have read all Shirley's books, and it is a lot of information to dissect.

Do we have to re-incarnate? What if I don't want to come back?
What happens when we reach the final stage? Do we turn into a big ball of light like they say "Nirvana" and that is it?

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Old 07-08-2012, 08:52 AM
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Hello Sojourner and Welcome!
You wrote:
This life seems to me like a big halogram (is the only way I can describe it), like the past, present and future are all folded upon itself like a folded tortilla, and sometimes these portals of access allow us to experience a different dimension for a very brief period of time. Like it is not a linear continuum, like it is more like a cirlce or spheric situation- with portals. That is how our higher self knows the beginning from the end- because it is all the same. (I think)

I think you have a very deep understanding of your experiences and agree it is just like a hologram.

Do we have to incarnate? My understanding is that - in most cases - we don't have to until we are ready. We can experience the energetic side of life without a physical body. But if we have not mastered our lessons we do have to work toward that goal.

I think we are all balls of energy anyway and just borrowing physical bodies. I don't know if we'll yell Nirvana or maybe Ultrea... I'm not sure what happens when we reach perfection.

Excellent question though - anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:08 PM
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I would think nirvana is the ultimate peace, not just for ourselves but for the collective conscious. Perhaps it is up to the older souls to help the younger souls achieve this. I don't think our paths can always be strictly personal ones. I sense that most of the people here are such wonderful givers. Maybe sometimes we incarnate just to help others in some lives. Maybe in some lives our purpose feels so small but it really means a lot to someone else. I don't know either, Sojourner, but it's interesting just wondering.
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Shirley mentioned on fb how we can consider our past lives and how it can help us in this life. I am still new to all this, and learning, but I believe that there is something to it.

When I was a child, around 10 years old- I was washing my face and looked in the mirror. I don't know if it was like a vision or a dream or what the heck it was. But I remember this: My face was changing, and my hair changed to 2 braids, reddish color, and my eye color changed from brown to blue, and freckles came on my face across my nose. And then it was like something around me (not necessarily verbal), was saying that it was "time to change". I remember, I did feel resentment about having to "change" or "transform" (for lack of a better word), so soon. But I will never forget that, it was so real, it was like a really quick like flash or vision or something. Which I have had many times throughout my life- these "quick movie type flashes" I call them, because I don't know what they are. But when Shirley posted that message on her wall, this memory came back to me. A lot of esoteric things have happened to me in my life that I cannot understand. I know, that my mother said I was like talking to angels or something when I was like 5- she heard me. I sort of remember something like that.

This life seems to me like a big halogram (is the only way I can describe it), like the past, present and future are all folded upon itself like a folded tortilla, and sometimes these portals of access allow us to experience a different dimension for a very brief period of time. Like it is not a linear continuum, like it is more like a cirlce or spheric situation- with portals. That is how our higher self knows the beginning from the end- because it is all the same. (I think)

Somehow, I have a really strong connection to Egypt also. I don't know why. I was always intrigued with Egyptology and all those artifacts. I can even tell the difference between the chariot wheels from different dynasties. I saw a friends photos of "The Valley of the Kings" and it instantly felt like home or familiar.

I don't understand all this, and my mother, and siblings and last sibling will soon be on the other side of the rainbow. Everyone is passing away before they made 53 years old. I am 51 now. I am the last one left. It helps me to not be afraid, because I know that there is something more. But I dont understand how these past lives (if there are), can help me here or what is the purpose of it all. I know and have been told that I am an old soul, and that we choose our lives here- why would I choose to come into a family that everyone dies so young? Maybe I am searching. I have read all Shirley's books, and it is a lot of information to dissect.

Do we have to re-incarnate? What if I don't want to come back?
What happens when we reach the final stage? Do we turn into a big ball of light like they say "Nirvana" and that is it?

thanks,
Sojourner

Well, for me it feels like we don't have to do anything we don't
want to do... but every decision we make seems to have it's own
set of circumstances, no matter what the decision is.
Beautiful post, Sojourner.

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Old 07-08-2012, 07:38 PM
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We shall keep returning until we reach enlightenment--and then there is the choice whether we wanna pop into this world again to teach the not so highly evolved souls.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:13 AM
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And if, at that point in our evolution, we choose not to come back to teach those on a lower vibrational level .. what then? I mean, can perfection EVER be truly attained? How, I wonder, would we KNOW we "know it all" and not just THINK we "know it all" ???

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Old 07-09-2012, 04:52 PM
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Dear Hearts

I think that purpose of incarnation is to attain some level of experience. Like student of university needs to practice say in hospital to become a good doctor. So this experience collected over incarnation journey is valid to become immortal.
But what you do when you become immortal? Well you are not on hollyday all the time, because you attained the level of being who is in service to God. This is the mystery known to Egyptians that is often painted on walls, the journey of the soul afterlife. When the soul matures with understanding that was achived in incarnations it will attain level that does not requarie any more reincarnational learning experience.

I share here part from my experience that I posted in my blog:
http://galacticdoor2011.blog.com/20...sun-initiation/

I like to share next part of my personal spiritual self-awareness experience. First part was posted here on 9 December 09 in ‘Universal Father” post.
http://galacticdoor2011.blog.com/20...-my-channeling/

In February of 1993 I attended a seminar in Sydney with Verlaine Crawford who channeled Ixaka – an Angelic Light Being. Ixaka has channelled through many individuals in the past, including: Quetzalcoatl of the Mayan; Elijah, the prophet; and Imhotep of Egypt, architect of the first Pyramids, teacher of arts, science and medicine. http://www.verlainecrawford.com/speaking.html
I bought some tapes and next day after the seminar, during meditation Ixaca told me that he would be working with me for the next ten weeks.


On 28 February 1993 I meditated with my friend Gerald and in that meditation I saw the gold Pyramid of light that aligned with me.

Than new guide: Imhotep said to me:You were my son and you were immortal but you choose mortality. Now is your time to become immortal again”.

After meditation Gerald gave me crystal balancing and I went into trans state but was able to speak to my friend telling what I was experiencing. I was lying with my head facing north and I saw from east direction as ‘Imhotep’ was brought to the room by 4 man on sedan chair and later stood to my right side facing East. Than I was placed inside the boat that looked like those shown in Egyptian funeral pictures. I become this boat and was travelling on a river. It felt as if my legs were travelling first in south direction. Than made a turn and I was travelling north-east trugh space on this river. I asked if this was the river of death?

‘No this is the river of life’- someone answered.

Then this boat becomes the river, I was that river and it felt as if I was traveling through the sky. I came to the big door and someone opens it a little and asked me: ‘what do you want?

Inside me a voice said: ‘I want immortality’.

Then he asked: ‘what do you want it for’?

Again the answer came from within and I said: ‘Because I want to serve God’.

Then the door opened wide and I was allowed in flowing inside with my legs first.
The door closed behind me and he said:
‘You have been accepted for a trial test’.

After this meditation I asked my guide: ‘when this trial test will finish?

And he answered:‘when this life will finish’.
I was also informed that with this experience I have raised my energy level to 55%, and have become consciously aware of the sixth dimension of time and space. When I started channelling in 1989 my guide Joseph told me that I was open 16 % to conscious awareness of cosmic energy and he was helping me to raise it much higher.

Ps. I like to add here that this experience was in February and we have constellation Orion just at that direction North East over head at night here in Sydney Australia.

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Old 07-19-2012, 05:36 AM
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Dear Souls
Most interesting topics that have nudged everyone... Who are we, and why we are here,why we are the way we are, and why all is as is, is there recycling of us? etc...
Thanks to Shirley back in early 90is, i started on the search and promised to my Self that i am going for the TOP answer. So i want from book to book all leading me for yet other book and i also look at the different magazines, when in NEXUS Australia mag 1998 i read an article about part of an interview with the scientist DR Neruda. The rest of the that interview and more of them, we were advised to go on the www.wingmakers.com
For whole 3 Years i was obsessed with the subject and could not stop thinking about it, did not have PC my self, kidz did not want to coop...etc, so i bought a computer, went to local TAFE education center, enrolled in to "literacy" course-]this was to learn to work/start computer] and FINALLY! got my burning desire accomplished.So, from 2001 this site is my learning school to go HOME. Yes, we are not at Home here, or when we just die, we go Home... No, we have to willingly work on our Self what we want, it is individual free will-remember? And www.wingmakers.com have been created at this time for us who feel/are drown to, going Home: to get OUT of the matter creation that we willingly entared to ply with the creation creating with The Creator...and in it-we forgot who we are. Eventually though, everyone of us have enough at some point, and start the Journey of the search for an answers?
Back in 1994, i clearly remember my first deepest call of Home that happened with the dream:
in the dream, i was invisible High Pristess with the invissible company of others, and i was called to this huge room-of the clay floor- one door on the oposite side of where i was coming from, and behind that door- lying on the floor was a young man. As i come to him, he was standing tall above my head and i lift my eyes to look at him and i said aloud: "You are going HOME". As i heard my words, i felt the painful deepest desire in my chest for HOME and was awoken with sobbing, seat on the bed and try remembering where is that that i long so? I realized it is not on this planet, but with the Creator. I continued crying long, wishing in my deepest Heart to return. My Higher Self got the signal, i almost instantly found Shirley's work, and the rest is as they say: history.
I know now that HEART is the Way, in living from the Heart, i am going Home, for in our Hearts is where the Light/Creator is. Listen, feel, follow, surrender.
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Lidia
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Dear Souls
Most interesting topics that have nudged everyone... Who are we, and why we are here,why we are the way we are, and why all is as is, is there recycling of us? etc...
Thanks to Shirley back in early 90is, i started on the search and promised to my Self that i am going for the TOP answer. So i want from book to book all leading me for yet other book and i also look at the different magazines, when in NEXUS Australia mag 1998 i read an article about part of an interview with the scientist DR Neruda. The rest of the that interview and more of them, we were advised to go on the www.wingmakers.com
For whole 3 Years i was obsessed with the subject and could not stop thinking about it, did not have PC my self, kidz did not want to coop...etc, so i bought a computer, went to local TAFE education center, enrolled in to "literacy" course-]this was to learn to work/start computer] and FINALLY! got my burning desire accomplished.So, from 2001 this site is my learning school to go HOME. Yes, we are not at Home here, or when we just die, we go Home... No, we have to willingly work on our Self what we want, it is individual free will-remember? And www.wingmakers.com have been created at this time for us who feel/are drown to, going Home: to get OUT of the matter creation that we willingly entared to ply with the creation creating with The Creator...and in it-we forgot who we are. Eventually though, everyone of us have enough at some point, and start the Journey of the search for an answers?
Back in 1994, i clearly remember my first deepest call of Home that happened with the dream:
in the dream, i was invisible High Pristess with the invissible company of others, and i was called to this huge room-of the clay floor- one door on the oposite side of where i was coming from, and behind that door- lying on the floor was a young man. As i come to him, he was standing tall above my head and i lift my eyes to look at him and i said aloud: "You are going HOME". As i heard my words, i felt the painful deepest desire in my chest for HOME and was awoken with sobbing, seat on the bed and try remembering where is that that i long so? I realized it is not on this planet, but with the Creator. I continued crying long, wishing in my deepest Heart to return. My Higher Self got the signal, i almost instantly found Shirley's work, and the rest is as they say: history.
I know now that HEART is the Way, in living from the Heart, i am going Home, for in our Hearts is where the Light/Creator is. Listen, feel, follow, surrender.
Love and Blessings
Lidia


Thank You Lidia for you sharing this post. I read the wingmakers material long time ago. I found it interesting but I felt that info stoped in the middle.
The same way I was intrigued by information I read about Halls of Amenti. Here is post from my blog about it.
From writing of Halls of Amenti I recognise that thay tell a story of before ending of Atlantis and that a space ship took out from Atlantis a group of souls.
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This is from my post:
http://galacticdoor2011.blog.com/20...-cheops-secret/
Here is the text of Tablet 5 and I put in diferent colour what I find is very interesting:

EMERALD TABLET V :
The Dweller of Unal


Oft dream I of buried Atlantis, lost in the ages that have passed into night. Aeon on aeon thou existed in beauty, a shining through the darkness of night.
Mighty in power, ruling the earth-born, Lord of the Earth in Atlantis’ day. King of the nations, master of wisdom, Light through Suntal, Keeper of the Way, dwelt in his Temple, the Master of Unal, Light of the Earth in Atlantis’ day.
Master, He, from a cycle beyond us, living in bodies as one among men. Not as the earth-born, He from beyond us, Sun of a cycle, advanced beyond men.

Know ye, O man, that Horlet the Master, was never one with the children of men. Far in the past time when Atlantis first grew as a power, appeared there one with the Key of Wisdom, showing the way of Light to all.

Showed he to all men the path of attainment, way of the Light that flows among men. Mastering darkness, leading the Man-Soul, upward to heights that were One with the Light.

Divided the Kingdoms, He into sections. Ten were they, ruled by children of men. Upon another, built He a Temple, built but not by the children of men.

Out of the Ether called He its substance, moulded and formed by the power of Ytolan into the forms He built with His mind. Mile upon mile it covered the island, space upon space it grew in its might. Black, yet not black, but dark like the space-time, deep in its heart the Essence of Light. Swiftly the Temple grew into being, moulded an shaped by the Word of the Dweller, called from the formless into a form.

Builded He then, within it, great chambers, filled them from forms called forth from the Ether, filled them with wisdom called forth by His mind.

Formless was He within his Temple, yet was He formed in the image of man. Dwelling among them yet not of them, strange and far different was He from the children of men.

Chose He then from among the people, Three who became his gateway. Chose He the Three from the Highest to become his links with Atlantis. Messengers they, who carried his councel, to the kings of the children of men.

Brought He forth others and taught them wisdom; teachers, they, to the children of men. Placed He them on the island of Undal to stand as teachers of Light to men.

Each of those who were thus chosen, taught must he be for years five and ten. Only thus could he have understanding to being Light to the children of men. Thus there came into being the Temple, a dwelling place for the Master of man.

I, Thoth, have ever sought wisdom, searching in darkness and searching in Light. Long in my youth I traveled the pathway, seeking ever new knowledge to gain. Until after much striving, one of the Three, to me brought the Light. Brought He to me the commands of the Dweller, called me from darkness into the Light. Brought He me, before the Dweller, deep in the Temple before the great Fire.

There on the great throne, beheld I, the Dweller, clothed with the Light and flashing with fire. Down I knelt before that great wisdom, feeling the Light flowing through me in waves. Heard I then the voice of the Dweller: “O darkness, come into the Light. Long have ye sought the pathway to the Light. Each soul on earth that loosens its fetters shall soon be made free from the bondage of night. Forth from the darkness have ye arisen, closer approached the Light of your goal. Here ye shall dwell as one of my children, keeper of records gathered by wisdom, instrument thou of the Light from beyond. Ready be thou made to do what is needed, perserver of wisdom though the ages of darkness that shall come fast on the children of men. Live thee here and drink of all wisdom. Secrets and mysteries unto thee shall unveil.”

Then answered I, the Master of Cycles, saying: “O Light, that descended to men, give thou to me of thy wisdom that I might be a teacher of men. Give thou of thy Light that I may be free.”

Spoke then to me again, the Master: “Age after age shall ye live through your wisdom. Aye, when o’er Atlantis the ocean waves roll, holding the Light, though hidden in darkness, ready to come when e’er thou shalt call. Go thee now and learn greater wisdom. Grow thou through Light to Infinity’s ALL.”

Long then dwelt I in the Temple of the Dweller until at last I was One with the Light.

Followed I then the path to the star planes, followed I then the pathway to Light. Deep into Earth’s heart I followed the pathway, learning the secrets, below as above; learning the pathway to the Halls of Amenti; learning the Law that balances the world. To earth’s hidden chambers pierced I by my wisdom, deep through the Earth’s crust, into the pathway, hidden for ages from the children of men. Unveiled before me, ever more wisdom until I reached a new knowledge: found that all is part of an ALL, great and yet greater than all that we know. Searched I Infinity’s heart through the ages. Deep and yet deeper, more mysteries I found.

Now, as I look back through the ages, know I that wisdom is boundless, ever grown greater throughout the ages, One with Infinity’s greater than all.

Light there was in ancient Atlantis. Yes, darkness, too, was hidden in all. Fell from the Light into the darkness, some who had risen to heights among men. Proud they became because of their knowledge, proud were they of their place among men. Deep delved they into the forbidden, opened the gateway that led to below. Sought they to gain ever more knowledge but seeking to bring it up from below.

He who descends below must have balance, else he is bound by lack of our Light. Opened, they then, by their knowledge, pathways forbidden to man.

But, in His Temple, all-seeing, the Dweller, lay in his Agwanti, which through Atlantis His soul roamed free. Saw He the Atlanteans, by their magic, opening the gateway that would bring to Earth a great woe. Fast fled His soul then, back to His body. Up He arose from His Agwanti. Called He the Three mighty messengers. Gave the commands that shattered the world.

Deep ‘neath Earth’s crust to the Halls of Amenti, swiftly descended the Dweller. Called He then on the powers of the Seven Lords wielded; changed the Earth’s balance. Down sank Atlantis beneath the dark waves.

Shattered the gateway that had been opened; shattered the doorway that led down below. All of the islands were shattered except Unal, and part of the island of the sons of the Dweller. Preserved He them to be the teachers, Lights on the path for those to come after, Lights for the lesser children of man.
Called He then, I Thoth, before him, gave me commands for all I should do, saying: “Take thou, O Thoth, all of your wisdom. Take all your records. Take all your magic.
Go thou forth preserving the records until in time Light grows among men. Light shalt thou be all through the ages, hidden yet found by enlightened men.

Over all Earth, give WE ye power, free thou to give or take it away. Gather thou now the sons of Atlantis. Take them and flee to the people of the rock caves. Fly to the land of the Children of Khem.”
Then gathered I the sons of Atlantis. Into the spaceship I brought all my records, brought the records of sunken Atlantis. Gathered I all of my powers, instruments many of mighty magic.
Up then we rose on wings of the morning. High we arose above the Temple, leaving behind the three and Dweller, deep in the Halls ‘neath the Temple.

Down ‘neath the waves sank the great Temple, closing the pathway to the Lords of the Cycles. Yet ever to him who has knowing, open shall be the path to Amenti.
Fast fled we then on the wings of the morning, fled to the land of the children of Khem. There by my power, I conquered and ruled them. Raised I to Light, the children of Khem.
Deep ‘neath the rocks, I buried my spaceship, waiting the time when man might be free. Over the spaceship, erected a marker in the form of a lion yet like unto man.

There ‘neath the image rests yet my spaceship, forth to be brought when need shall arise.
Know ye, O man, that far in the future invaders shall come from out of the deep. Then awake, ye who have wisdom. Bring forth my ship and conquer with ease.
Deep ‘neath the image lies my secret. Search and find in the pyramid I built. Each to the other is the Keystone; each the gateway that leads into Life.

Follow the Key I leave behind me. Seek and the doorway to Life shall be thine.

Seek thou in my pyramid, deep in the passage that ends in a wall. Use thou the Key of the Seven, and open to thee the pathway will fall.
Now unto thee I have given my wisdom. Now unto thee I have given my way. Follow the pathway. Solve thou my secrets. Unto thee I have shown the way.

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