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Old 02-10-2010, 12:23 PM
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Kris: I just found this thread and read the first posts. This is your future. Whenever you experience Krishna and the blue light, Creator is bringing you into his path. Come, Lord Krishna, and guide Kris to her highest ascension. See Sri Amma Karunamayi and dharma the divine knowledge of this experience.

Divine One, breathe the light of ascension. Divine Creator, raise the vibration of our beings to become enlightened. Divine Elohim, receive our praise of your grace on earth and bring us eternal light. El Sharron, the ascended Abraham.

Peace and grace,

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That was from Feb 2008!

Thank goodness I found this thread!...hahahha
ok...going now...BRB!

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Default To the depths of dispair!

I had to go
To the bottom

To find the darkness
So I would never go there again!

Dancing has become a passion
It releases so much energy

Hence my total obsorbtion
with this music.

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I hope and pray this battle is not all in vain

That we will be victorious and have no more pain

Please understand, I have been fighting also, for my freedom

That comes with the morning....and the rising of the sun

I see you standing on the horizon....with a sword and a shield

Making sure that I have a way...causing everyone to yield


This is my soul retrieval....which is long...dark...and steep
It will not be questioned....for my love is very very deep
To see the arrows and understand the storm
This lone warrior is not one of the norm
I stand and I weep....for I know the path of the road
It has been shown to me....and now i have been told

Search for the universe...and the untold truth
It is all before you....just meditate on the earth
Do not falter...do not fail....it is your life...
That must seek the grail

I share my stories....that may help and heal...
for we are all one...in this amazing earthly trails

Just open your eyes...and see the dawn
of the new day arising and the morning of song
No one will help you....I have found and agree
It is my shaman...of soul....that is you and it is me....

Love Kris
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Gosh...I just had to read this again, 2007!
Was it really I!
Who saw the dawn
Before you were really gone?

Was it really I
Who washed away the sin
for all the women and men?

Was it really I
Who loved you until the end

Love Kris
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:28 PM
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Default The Desert For Victoria Harris

The Desert is bare
The Desert may scare
My crystal has shown me
No need to share

Oh How I love you
Can you hear me too!

I dream of you
every morning and night
Nile, Morraco, and Gobi too!

The warrior with his horse
and his army of might
They wanted only peace
and then you made them fight

I heard the city was holy
with crystal and light
To take them now
must surely be without sight

To honour and obey
Your destiny and mine
Your crown of glory
came with the sands of time

I waken with love and respect
That you were the one
That rode with the wind
the stars and the sun

The Desert
Oh, How I love you!
God is one

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I've been reading this post as it develops. The word retrieval seems strange.
Did the soul really go anywhere or does each of us have to work to maintain the connection? Is connection a better more operative word?

I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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I've been reading this post as it develops. The word retrieval seems strange.
Did the soul really go anywhere or does each of us have to work to maintain the connection? Is connection a better more operative word?

I'd like to hear your thoughts.



Shirley,

If they are talking about a soul leaving or somehow getting lost it seems strange to me as well. I believe the only thing that we need to retrieve is remembering that we are all one and connected.

I think most of us feel the sense of disconnect from source or the oneness, thus connection I feel is a much better word.

No matter where we go, there we are.
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Hello Shirley and Realtruth!

When I became disconnected.....long long ago....I cut off that other part of my soul or heart.

I/we separated into two....remember? hahahah

I am still trying to communicate all that has happened....and memory is flooding back l00%.

Something happened back there in Egypt or Gobi or the desert of time.

I remember NOW of being whole..christ consciousness is inside of me...I just couldn't see it. It had become buried....afraid, hate, anger, lost!

As a new born, I almost died, the oxygen became undone until a nurse rescued me....this is part of the retrieval I found with the help of my shaman
or memory of the lost connection! yahoo!

However, at that point, I shut down....my mother had left me for adoption, I was scared almost....to death.

Since I have been meditating every day for the past 3 months...and not working....I have found some amazing light when I asked for the truth!

I just couldn't see it....or feel it...I couldn't get my head/heart around it!

All of us are searching for that part of the soul....thinking it is a soul mate!

It is not OUT there....it is inside us.

NOW I want to know how to function in a relationship now that I have found my other part was always right here!?

Slowly, I am not expecting anything from anyone...hence the manifestation of all has come.

Do I designate even days to myself....and odd days to the other? Ha Ha

I am struggling now, cuz I thought, Oh Great, I have someone now I can talk to and share some things/thoughts with...and when this realization came...I got confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, when I do THAT sharing/relationship bit, I loose some of myself and centredness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So now the big question....How to become Buddha.....and still maintain this earthly plane.....of exotic foods & the other earthly pleasures???????

Boy...what a friggen dilema...

Back to the sands...
Balance...somehow...

Love Kris xo
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I don't believe we ever have to "retrieve" our soul. I think we come into this dimension with it and leave with it. As the saying goes--"we are not bodies with a soul; we are souls with bodies".
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From my understanding, the term "soul" when used by a shaman is not equivalent to the "western" or perhaps even the "eastern" concept of soul. The shamanistic idea of soul encompasses, I believe, more of the energetic field of the human in so far as it includes what would be termed the astral body – which is seen to be in the west and east as somewhere between the soul and the body. As well, it includes the energetic body which would be considered the psychic body (the part that creates and maintains psychic links and cords) in the west.

If it is considered that a shaman’s idea of "soul" includes those energetic parts of a person that can travel and exist in these fields and also that the shaman sees entering and travelling in these energetic planes as a journey then I think the idea of "retrieving" the "soul" makes sense. Reinterpreted for the western/eastern understanding it might be said that the shamanistic "soul retrieval" relates to energy work on various levels – astral, psychic etc.

To put it visually (I’m right brained so this helps me) –

For western/eastern people:
soul = soul
energetic body = (astral; psychic; aura, chi etc)

For a shaman:
soul = "western soul" + energetic body (astral; psychic; aura; chi etc)

Here’s a couple of links to shaman’s sites that describe the process of "soul retrieval" and may help to get a glimpse into the shaman’s mindset.

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/s/soul_retrieval%20.html

http://www.shamanlinks.net/Soul_Retrieval.htm

As you can see in the articles, "soul retrieval" is not meant to be an end although it can be a final step in a healing process – but it also can be a step to clear things up so that new and further growth can occur.

Energy work, however it’s undertaken, can clear up many blockages which have been deeply repressed or release energy drains which are occurring with psychic cords for example. These sorts of blockages may, in my opinion, limit a person’s ability to fully and clearly connect with their "western soul". At least they would make the connection more difficult to achieve or harder to maintain (I speak from the experience of having had psychic cords that not only drain energy but mix my energy with someone elses – this definitely affected my ability to connect).

I think it is fascinating that the shaman incorporates the nonphysical reality of this incarnation – different planes of existance etc into his view of a soul. I wonder how we would view the world if this is how we believed. What kind of world would have been created? If there wasn’t a split between soul and nonphysical energetic plane to begin with – what choices would have been made in relationships; in creating a society etc? I don’t know of any "civilizations" that are founded on shamanism – anyone know of any? Was the religion of Atlantis supposed to be shamanistic?

Sorry, bit off topic – but if anyone knows of any civilization that was built on shamanism – I’d be interested to know – please feel free to start another post or add the information here (if that’s ok with you Knblutz)

Knblutz I think it’s interesting that you said you were trying to figure out how to have a relationship now that you have this new understanding within your spirit of being all that you "need". I suppose that’s where those connections to the "western soul" would come in – in maintaining balance. Personally, I find that after I have some shift in consciousness that moves me more in line with my spirit that dilemma of not knowing how or what to do comes up. The old behaviours just don’t work and I have no idea what the new ways are!
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I've been reading this post as it develops. The word retrieval seems strange.
Did the soul really go anywhere or does each of us have to work to maintain the connection? Is connection a better more operative word?

I'd like to hear your thoughts.


Dear Shirley,
I have been a student of metaphysics (in this life) ever since my mid teens, and I had access to an extremely good teacher. As a result I think I understand, at least on an intellectual level what the SOUL is, and therefore could not resist making this comment ...

I tend to come at such subjects from a mechanistic perspective, but that does not mean I am without feeling or sensitivity LOL

We all do to some extent understand about life on Earth existing on different planes of vibration, and we could number these one to seven, this basic plane being 'one' of course.

Each human living in this world is using a set of seven different bodies, distributed over six of these planes, and it is the 'highest' body on plane six which is the Soul body. This is sometimes referred to as The Father which is in Heaven, The Son of God, or by the Theosophists as The Monad. This is the vehicle of 'Hyper-consciousness' as some call it, which is above intuition (super-consciousness) and higher spiritual aspirations (supra-consciousness).

The Soul is in reality the real being, not the basic physical body (The Son of Man, or personality), which is temporary, and repeatedly replaced.

It is not so much that we have a soul, but more correctly that 'The Soul has a set of lower bodies, of which the basic physical is the lowest (in terms of frequency of vibration). So as you rightly suggested it is the connection which can become a bit 'weak', and it is the experisnce patterns we undergo which will over time (hopefully) strengthen this link.

I hope that has helped, rather than clouded the issue? I have reincarnation, and manifestation pages on my own website that have diagrams of the various bodies, and their relationship to each other. (labaker.net)

... Leslie
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