Aeiri,

Since we digressed from karma, I took your cue and moved to reincarnation. : ) I was going to email you, but I am really getting interested in this. Before, I just wanted to work through the emotions, I didn't think it would be possible to discover an actual identity in the past. I'd like to see if anyone else has any knowledge on the subject.

You asked me if any bells went off, There was one big bell... Memphis!

I'm not sure if it was the same lifetime or not, but I have a memory of leaving my husband for infidelity (in predynastic egypt?). I remember riding by camel in caravan to Salom, the city where "The Builder of the Great Ark" lived as King and Prophet of the Mesopotamian Kingdoms. I went to the Prophet/King to request permission to leave my husband because of his infidelity. Permission was granted and I was given 1/3 of my husbands wealth, 1/3 of his servants, 1/3 of his flocks and our only son. I was told in meditation once, that I had returned to Egypt with my son and lived out the rest of my life in Memphis. Perhaps the Dejer I remember was not my husband, but my son? I assumed he was my husband because of the intimate embrace we shared when he went to battle. Do you know where I can find a picture of Djer to see if it is the same face?

Also, I'm pretty sure "The Builder of the Great Ark" was Noah, and probably also Melchizedek. If you look at a biblical timeline, you can see that Melchizedek ordained Abraham in approximately the same year that Noah died. If Noah was alive, then who else could possible hold claim to "King of Righteousness". Does anyone know who was Pharoah during Melchizedek's reign?



--Seshat

Hi Seshat,

Memphis is easy for a person to repond positively to. It was the first capital city with the unification of Egypt. Memphis is the Greek name for Menufer. Those silly Greeks had such a way with changing the language on us. If Memphis rang a bell for you it is most likely because of the modern way of thinking about things and what we are taught. If Menufer rings bells for you, you may even develop a deeper sense of connection with that past identity. I know my head spins when I know for a fact that most of the names of Egyptian cities and towns we know today are Greek or Arabic variants of their originals. For me the older ones are like shadows with secrets I know are there and until I do my homework the bells don't really go off until I see what the Egyptians called them. BTW 2 names stick out for me with the older names of Egypt: Kemet and Tamera. I am still trying to figure out what city I lived in as Useshet, but I can tell you very clearly that my life as Ti'nah was spent in Pe (or Buto as it's known today).

What got me giddy with delight to the point of getting dizzy was when I went to the Memphis-to-Memphis exhibit in Tennessee in the late 1980's. They had Ramesses the Great there with his 20-ton Colossus and lots of artifacts! I knew it wasn't stuff from "my time" but I never felt so close to home before then. Later (in 1999) I went to visit the local museum in Albuquerque to see the "Mysteries of Egypt" at the dynamax theatre. This one made me ill for the fact that I don't do well in moving vehicles and they went out of their way to fly over the cataracts of the Nile and then over the Giza plateau. I got to watch most of it and enjoyed Ohmar Sharif's performance and the stories being told beginning from King Tut's funeral. Once I settled out we visited their gift shop and I had a ball playing with the Egyptian stuff wanting to buy everything. Finally, late in Feb of this year I was sent by my company to San Jose/Santa Clara CA for a vendor training school. While I was there I made a point of visiting the Rosicrucian museum in San Jose. Their exhibits were closer to "my" time period and they even have a small tomb replica you can walk through. I remember feeling very comfortable in the damp recesses there. That is also where I was jolted with the majority of my "emotional" memories of Useshet. I felt like I needed to be there in a full sheath carrying a scribble tablet and making notes for an inventory prior to a special event. Couldn't tell you if it was a funeral or a festival, but I paid special attention to the walls and where things were meant to be placed later.

As to your feelings of leaving your husband for infedility in pre-dynastic times I can tell you that scrolls were found of contracts, wills, and marriage and divorce (seperation) agreements. The average person didn't "marry" they "took a house" together. The "married" couple were not husband and wife as we understand it today, they became brother and sister of the house. (Wife is a corruption of the Old English word Wyf which means simply "woman".) With DNA testing scientists are finding that the blood relationship and mating of a brother and sister was more prominent than originally thought. This was as easily accepted as two people who weren't related in any way "taking a house" together went as well.

It's quite possible that if you are thinking pre-dynastic times that Djer was a common enough name (the recorded Djer was after all only the second --or third-- king of a unified country as it was). Also, from another posting you described the garb of the man you were close to. In answer to this: the color black (as a dye) goes back a long way and besides dying wigs it was used as "fancy" dress in later dynastic times, and metalurgy was known as early as 3400 BCE; moslty bronze, tins, and coppers. Gold was dated to 3200 BCE; strangely enough it was associated with one of Djer's Queens. A sample of iron was found on the Giza Plateau dating to the Early Dynastic Period (they even found traces of the beginnings of steel in that piece).

Here are 2 URLs for Djer you might find interesting:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/4396/dynasty1.htm

http://www.pineglen.com/g_smith.htm

Finding any pictures of statuary of or from Djer's period is proving difficult. Perhaps someone else can provide that.

If I knew what time period Melchizedek is creditted for a reign I could tell you approximately which pharaoh was in charge at that time.

Talk at ya later,
Aeiri

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Melchizedek is a more elusive topic than I imagined. I started looking for a person and the search immediately became a look into the priesthood, which led me to the Latter-Day Saints, and references to Genesis. Well, going back to the looking for Melchizedek as a man, who was "divine mediator after 100 CE", at least gave me a point of reference with which to compare his lifetime against that of the pharonic lineage(s).

At 100 CE (Current Era) Egypt was under Roman rule, specifically the Emperor Trajanus (98-117 CE), that is to say, he was the 11th Roman Emperor to reign after Augustus Caesar seized control after Cleo. From a history as long as Egypt has, this is a relatively recent occurance.

If you base Melchizedek off of a time frame that includes Noah we have to go back further, and as there are no "confirmed" remains a timeline is even more difficult to come by for a comparison on which pharaoh was in power. I can tell you that Ramesses the Great (II) of the Nineteenth Dynasty was supposedly the man who Moses dealt with. I would have to assume that Melchizedek was around a long time earlier than that, however.

I looked into a little research and supposition based on when some of the "popular" ideas of when Noah's flood occured to give you another perspective on pharonic lineage. I found two suggested possibilities (not counting those of times when Pangea existed and the whole world was water except for that single source of land. The first suggestion relates to cave drawings dated to 12,000-10,000 BCE, this would put Egyptian civilization in its cradle long before the unification. This is the Upper Paleolithic period (30,000-10,000 BCE) after the grassland turned back into desert (for the second and final time, thus far). What science considers as "true cultures" began at about this time.

The second reference to a great flood (or at least a dying out of animals) was 5,500 BCE, which is dated as the very early beginnings of the Pre-Dynastic Period (5,500-3,100 BCE), wherein evidence of organized, permanent settlements focused around agriculture has been discovered and a shift in burial customs takes place. To my knowledge there are no references as to any king-names found before King "Scorpion" (who popularly pre-dates Na'rmer).

If you sense any gold from any lifetime, the Egyptinas were metalurgists for quite some time and the oldest found (Egyptian) piece dates to 3,200 BCE (that I've seen reference to). Copper was in great abundance, as was tin, indicative of the "bronze" age of man.

Hope I'm not sounding too much like an Anthropology teacher here (even though I do enjoy that subject too).

Later,
Aeiri

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