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Old 05-04-2012, 05:12 PM
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Lightbulb Past Lives of the Rich and Famous

I'm going to start a series of short videos to illustrate how astrology can be used to look at past life karma. Astrology doesn't actually identify names or places but it sometimes offers a lot of circumstantial details like the role in life that went bad and who/what that role was in relationship to.

This information is helpful in determining patterns or shadow in this life that do not serve a person well and identifying the tool to use that breaks this karma/patterns.

I want to know which celebrities you would like me to read.

Here is the example I am starting with: Elizabeth Taylor

She was a Pisces with a Scorpio Moon and Sagittarius Ascendant. So from an evolutionary perspective she was looking to become a goddess: poetic and risk-taking.

The lunar nodes tell the karmic story. With a South Node in Virgo, 9th house she brought a sense of internalized shame and guilt due to some kind of rigid culture or religious belief system. She perhaps punished herself when this karma was activated. Add Mercury as the ruler of Virgo and we learn from its Pisces placement in her 3rd house that she was likely some kind of prattler or heretic in this lifetime. A mystic or dreamer whose true voice was self-suppressed. Since her Sun in Pisces is conjunct her Mercury, we learn more about her identity in this lifetime: She was a King or Queen - at very least - a rock star of the era in which this lifetime took place. She had fame and power. Going deeper, the 9th house ruler is Jupiter and it resided in Liz's 9th house, a natural home as well as in Leo. Blinded by zeal in the rigid social/religious construct of the time, in all of the glitz, egomaniacal and over expression of royalty, the noblest expressions of her Virgo (treated like her Sun sign in that lifetime) service, refinement and analysis were crushed and she carried guilt for that.

To look at what astrology offered her as a tool to break the karma we go to her North Node, which was in Pisces, 3rd house.

If Liz were to make it a life mission to let go, to play, to believe in God's love as absolute (a phrase astrologer Steven Forrest wrote in his book Yesterday's Sky) she would have eased up on this internalized punishment for not being true to that past self. In this lifetime, there was no karmic need for her to struggle or engage with it. If she kept an open mind, a sense of discovery and curiosity - especially around those whose opinions were opposed to hers - she would have gained a sense of being OK with life as complex.

Here is a brief look at the "karmic ripening" as indicated by transits, progressions and Solar Arcs:

In the Fall of 1959 when a 1M contract was offered to her to play Cleopatra Liz was 27 and very near her Saturn Return (a time of shake up, moving into adult choices and dreams) as well as a Lunar Return in Scorpio. The moon transits through each sign roughly 2.5 years and ends up back where it started for the next cycle around age 28.

It was the largest sum for an actor's movie contract at that time. A sum she reportedly requested off-handedly as a joke. With her Moon all about establishing strategic alliances (and open to falling prey to tribal influences) this was a sensitive time. Her Solar Arc Moon was crossing her Ascendant, revealing something under the surface that had been brewing for a couple of years leading to a risk opportunity.

As it turns out, Richard Burton's Sun in Scorpio conjuncts Liz's moon. They met on the set of the film and married a few years later after affairs and divorces.

What plays an important part in this story is her Neptune in Virgo. It opposes Mercury, the ruler of her South Node and represents "a brick wall" in her reality from her past life. Not only was Pluto transiting right over her Neptune during these years, but Burton's Moon conjuncts her Neptune and likely was the tempestuous key in their relationship.

America and Hollywood may have devoured their relationship in the magazines and films but karmically it was too much electricity for the human in Liz to handle. His emotions would likely have turned her into a severe critic, and a martyr in an impossible situation.

As you can see, I've only scratched the surface and written close to 800 words. But let me know what you think and also if you would like to see a certain celebrity chart done as a way to explore this topic further.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:15 PM
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Very interesting. I'd love to see you do Marilyn Monroe
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:12 PM
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Hi Jocelyn,

I will be glad to read Marilyn's chart. Thanks for your suggestion!

Also, for anyone interested in some more background on using the lunar nodes in a reading and the pioneers of that technique, here's a post from my website:



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Old 05-06-2012, 05:38 PM
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Default Thanks, Rick.

This is fascinating and may help to explain how she was able to win the Oscar over our near, dear, beloved friend, in 1961.

Elizabeth Taylor remembered by Shirley MacLaine
Shirley MacLaine
The Observer, Saturday 10 December 2011

"I will remember looking at her jewellery in the sun. In recent years, I would go up to Elizabeth's home all the time to make sure she was exercising or I would send someone else to make her get in the pool. She was not a fan of exercise, so most of the time we would end up taking out her jewellery and just looking at it in the sunlight.

We first met when I was 21 and she was 23 and found we were very relaxed together. I can't remember how it happened, but then I can't remember much now about when I was 21. A man I knew was in love with Elizabeth, I think, and I knew both of them.

At that time, people were not fawning all over her except the men, of course. We would talk mainly about work. We were both working six-day weeks and she was looking for the next piece of work. She never had a scheme, though. She was the kind of person who felt that things just happened when they should happen. Her marriage to Michael Wilding was ending and, although he was a nice person and was very nice with her, Elizabeth had adventures to go on. And, when I think of it, one of those adventures she never got around to having was to be anonymous. She talked to me about being a regular housewife. She honestly wanted that to look after a home and kids.

She had been a star since she was a child and was not as naturally outgoing as me anyway. When I was pregnant, I would go to her house and eat ice-cream and she would tell me what the rest of pregnancy was going to be like. Later on, she would come to my one-room shack on the beach. She told me so much about her life there, not just about her childhood but about things that had happened to her and which I will never tell.

I introduced her to Mike Todd, her third husband, on Around the World in 80 Days and then watched the negotiations between them. And they were negotiations. She was very funny. She used to bargain with him about going out to dinner.

Later, she told me about asking for $1m to do Cleopatra and she laughed. She never expected anyone to pay it. But she was a good businesswoman and later she turned all that into a multimillion dollar concern. She felt that, since she was perceived as a product, she might as well use it. Elizabeth was always regarded as a prize and she knew how to manipulate that with men, too.

She did not see herself as "Elizabeth Taylor" at all. She was much more like a Yiddisher momma, to be honest. She used to say she was going to have to be "Elizabeth Taylor" and put on that show. That was the gig, after all. It's what she had to do.

She was so much more down to earth than you would imagine. I miss her deep, deep humanity something you don't find very often. And, of course, her humour. We wanted to make fun of the world together. Not to look down on it, though. We just watched."

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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Default Fascinating, Rick...

Wow, I never knew before you moved to SF that you were so astrologically adept. I am totally impressed.

I would like you to read, Chris Christopherson. One of my long time favs.

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Hi GentleRick,

Ive been meaning to write you back on the other thread I have some questions about the Uranus transit as well as the pluto crossing your ascendent (I have a Capricorn ascendant too as well as a south node which, from this thread is making me wonder how pluto is affecting me in those areas . . .)

But in terms of this thread which has distracted me from the other -

I was trying to follow along in what I understand of the signs, houses and aspects which is very basic (actually Im only up on the signs and aspects a bit the houses not at all).

When you say that Elizabeth Taylor, from an evolutionary perspective
was looking to become a goddess: poetic and risk-taking
is that because Pisces, the sun sign is goddess energy? Then Scorpio, the moon poetic and Sagittarius, the ascendent risk-taking? or the Scorpio Moon is goddess and Pisces Sun poetic (Im assuming Sagittarius, the fire sign, is risk taking ).

Im wondering because I found your three word descriptor very compelling

And Im assuming that we could all have such a three word descriptor sort of an introduction to our own evolutionary perspective ie take our Sun sign, moon sign and ascendent in some order (I assume the order matters because of what each sign represents in terms of sun, moon, ascendent?) and say Im looking to become x, y, z depending on what our signs were. Would that be possible?

Ill end with that question because while I do have some more because Im really interested in understanding what youre saying, part of my questions are down to now knowing the energies of the signs etc very well. They may diminish in number if I read this over a few times .

As for a celebrity for you to look at - My friend who has been studying astrology over the last few years to help her understand her life better - told me recently that she used Nina Simones chart to help her learn. I think she would look at the planets, houses etc and transits of Nina Simones chart and then at what happened in her life etc and while we have talked about the nodes I dont know that she applied that knowledge yet or even considered it or the idea of what we can do to overcome the karmic influences.

If you feel Nina Simone is a well-known enough person to merit considering, Id love to know what you discover. It would be great to be able to share your ideas with my friend. I think she would be very intrigued by your video series in general as am I.
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