Don't tell me you people believe everything Michael Moore feeds you.... that's no better than the far-right conservatives, believing ALL rehtoric from the supporters of their own party.

As long as there is so much being posted in support of Michael Moore, I feel it is important to let you be aware of another side of the story.....


Book: 'Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man'
NewsMax.com
Thursday, June 24, 2004

A just released book takes on Michael Moore as never before. Its title screams: “Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man.”
And surprisingly, this book has been published by the same publisher who gave us Michael Moore’s own runaway bestseller “Stupid White Men.”

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Apparently, more than a few people want to take revenge on Michael Moore and the timing couldn’t be better – with the release this week of his “documentary” attack piece on George Bush - Fahrenheit 9/11.

Moore is so terrified by his detractors he claims that he has already hired a cabal of lawyers. He says he will sue Bush supporters who he thinks may be preparing to slander him.

Moore's hypocrisy is obvious. Slate editor Jack Shafer says “Moore's hysterical, empty threats" to sue critics of his latest schlockumentary shows that he "appears to believe in free speech only for himself."

One possible target for Moore’s lawyers may be the publisher of his own book.

Moore’s one time publisher, ReganBooks, is out with a disturbing yet comical book that dismantles every cog of that propaganda machine marketed as Michael Moore.

David T. Hardy and Jason Clarke's "Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man" begins by unearthing his phony roots and goes right up to his latest "documentary." Check out NewsMax's Free Offer for this book -- Click Here


Meet the Flint-drone: Everybody knows Moore is a blue-collar guy from Flint, Mich., right? That's how he always sells himself.

In reality, he was born and raised in the wealthy, lily-white town of Davison, Mich, the authors reveal. No wonder the clown prince of self-loathing developed such a complex about hating rich, stupid white males.


In a letter to Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times last year, Moore still listed his town as Flint. In fact, despite his proclamations that "capitalism is a sin" and "an evil system," he lives in a $1.9 million apartment in Manhattan and enjoys a $1.2 million summer home on Torch Lake in Michigan.


Does not play well with others: Moore can't get along even with his fellow travelers.

Hardy and Clarke disclose how the radical magazine Mother Jones fired the "arbitrary" and "suspicious" Moore; how he started his feud with his replacement, David Talbot, who later founded Salon; how Ralph Nader's organization fired Moore; how he attacked Pauline Kael, Harlan Jacobson and other prominent critics who exposed the deceits of his schlockumentaries; how he lost a lawsuit for betraying fellow lefty activist Larry Stecco in "Roger & Me," etc.


Nor can the elitist Moore tolerate those lowly working classes and students he claims to represent.

"Big Fat Stupid White Man" gives details of how he abused the staff during a speaking engagement at London's Roundhouse Theater; how he castigated a student who dared question his hefty speaking fee; how he attacked a young documentary maker who had the nerve to give him a taste of the "Roger & Me" treatment, and so forth.

And don't forget his amusingly shrill denunciation of those awful blue-collar crewmen who, unlike his fellow multimillionaires in Hollywood’s left, booed him during his tirade at the Oscars.

The book presents one example after another, alternating between frightening and hilarious, to make a brilliant case for Moore having Narcissistic Personality Disorder.


Then there's his feud with his former publisher, HarperCollins subsidiary ReganBooks, which gave us his best seller “Stupid White Men” and now brings us “Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man.”

ReganBooks, he claims, tried "to censor me and the things I wanted to say. They insisted I rewrite up to 50 percent of the book and that I remove sections that they found offensive to our leader, Mr. Bush." The company plotted "to 'pulp' and recycle all 50,000 copies of my book that were gathering dust in a warehouse," he insists.

However, ReganBooks issued a statement to NewsMax.com contradicting these allegations:

"Originally scheduled for release on September 11, 2001, the book was delayed by mutual agreement between author and publisher after the events of that day. Despite erroneous reports that have appeared in the press, the publisher never attempted to censor the book on partisan grounds, though the publisher and author did discuss replacing the original version of the book with an updated version to address the post-9/11 world. Ultimately, the decision was made to release the book in its original form, and it went on to become a huge success for both the publisher and the author. ReganBooks has since declined to exercise its option to publish another book by Mr. Moore."


After all, Moore and other members of the left-wing thought police can't bear a commitment to diversity of ideas.

Judith Regan, president and publisher of ReganBooks, noted that her company had produced books by Howard Stern and Moore as well as Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.

"As publishers, we have an obligation to publish a wide range of ideas, opinions, and perspectives," she said in a statement issued to NewsMax. "Our job is to publish voices on the left, on the right, and everywhere in between – to provide a broad range of opinion.”

"We agree with Michael Moore that free expression is one of our most important human rights," Regan said, "and publishing widely and freely is the only way to honor that tradition."


Unfortunately, Moore fights his critics' right to free expression, as Slate's Shafer noted and as Hardy and Clarke document at length.


Howlers in 'Columbine': Some of the distortions and falsehoods that plague the movie "Bowling for Columbine" are already well known, but Hardy and Clarke add details and reveal new whoppers.


Moore claims that National Rifle Association taunted the Denver area and the nation by holding "a large pro-gun rally" only days after the killings at Columbine High School.
In reality, the annual meeting had been planned well in advance, was required by law, could not have been changed in time to another city, and was stripped of all rallies and ceremony in deference to the community.


The movie depicts Charlton Heston as making his famous "cold, dead hands speech" in Denver.
In reality, the remarks came a year later in Charlotte, N.C., and Moore spliced bits of footage from that and another speech for maximum distortion. "It is a lie, a fraud, and a few other things," Hardy and Clarke write.


The fantasy film claims that Heston exploited a school shooting in Mount Morris, Mich., by staging another "big pro-gun rally" in October 2002.
In reality, Heston’s appearance came eight months after the shooting, at a get-out-the-vote event in nearby Flint. Others campaigning in the area around that time included Al Gore, George W. Bush … and Moore himself, touting Ralph Nader.

The authors conclude: "Bowling for Columbine has less documentary value than the average Bugs Bunny cartoon. You see Heston giving a speech – but it's doctored. You see history – but unconnected facts are given a particular Moorewellian spin. You hear that a factory is making weapons of mass destruction – actually, it's building satellite launch platforms. You're led to believe that a rally was a response to a shooting, but it turns out it was eight months later, in anticipation of an election. You watch a Bush-Quayle campaign ad, but in reality it was an ad Moore himself assembled."


'Stupid' is as stupid does: Hardy and Clarke dissect "Stupid White Men" and "Dude, Where’s My Country?" along with the latter's celluloid ugly stepchild, Fahrenheit 9/11, to delve into the heart of Moore's pathology. A few highlights:


Moore harps on his portrayal of America as a "nation of idiots" (i.e., people who disagree with him) and illiterates.
In reality, the "statistics" he offers indicating widespread illiteracy include two sizeable groups: immigrants who are often fluent in other languages but not English, and the blind and visually impaired.


Moore, who after all graduated from high school, delights in ridiculing his countrymen’s poor grasp of geography. "The dumbest Brit here is smarter than the smartest American," he snickers to an audience in London.
But Moore chooses not to add an important fact: young adults worldwide performed badly on the National Geographic survey he so selectively cites.


He claims that Florida wrongly disenfranchised thousands of pro-Democrat criminals in the 2000 election. "Thirty-one percent of all black men in Florida" are felons, in his paranoid fantasy world. (No wonder this limousine liberal travels in such exclusive circles.)
In reality, the Miami Herald showed that Democrat-run counties violated state law and let the overwhelmingly Democrat felons vote illegally – more than 2,000 votes, most of which went to Gore.


Most importantly, "Michael Moore Is a Big Fat Stupid White Man" refutes Moore's wild attempts to implicate the president in 9/11. Every American should read these chapters. They are too detailed to summarize here, but one example will demonstrate this book's importance.

Moore claims President Bush invaded Afghanistan and toppled the Taliban so he could get an oil pipeline built. You've probably heard others parrot this allegation. A master of propaganda knows that if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it.


In reality, Bush had supported Enron's plan to run pipes under the Caspian Sea and avoid Afghanistan. "Clinton was the one backing the rival Unocal plan to put them through Afghanistan," Hardy and Clarke observe.

Inspiration to terrorists: Moore's favorite claim: “THERE … IS … NO … TERRORIST … THREAT!" If so, why do terrorists take succor from him?

The most damning indictment of Moore in "Big Fat Stupid White Man": the salute offered by Imam Samudra, leader of the Muslim terrorist bombers who murdered 202 people, mostly Australians and other tourists, two years ago at Paddy's nightclub in Bali.

"I saw lots of whiteys dancing and lots of whiteys drinking there," Samudra told Indonesian police. The authors note, "It was 'Kill Whitey' (to quote a chapter heading in Stupid White Men) with a vengeance."


Samudra's attorney Qaidar Faisal concluded his defense by praising the Taliban and quoting from "anti-western texts" including Moore's "Stupid White Men."


Despite all the appalling revelations in "Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man," it's hard to finish the book without feeling pity for this man.

Had he used his talents to make actual documentaries and write books devoid of distortion and mendacity, he could have offered a useful critique of the Bush administration's flaws.

Instead, fueled by a narcissism that springs from hatred of self and others, he mangles reality to dupe the uninformed, delight the blame-America-first crowd and even inspire terrorists.

He concentrates his venom on one politician and one party but damages a nation.

"Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man" marks a confident step in undoing his damage.





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More on Moore and Fahrenheit 9/11

It's clear that Michael Moore has gone off the deep end when even Democrats compare him to the Nazis' master of propaganda:




"Hollywood agent and Kerry supporter Tom Baer told me, 'Kerry should flee Moore's movie. It's Goebbels all over again." This quotation comes not from Ann Coulter or Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh but from a column in the Washington Post by Tina Brown, a queen of the liberal media establishment.

Christopher Hitchens, a contributor to such partisan publications as New Left Review and The Nation, writes for Slate: "Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of 'dissenting' bravery."

Andrew Sullivan, a former editor at the liberal New Republic: "Moore is beneath contempt."

I was talking with a young friend yesterday who had just seen Farhenheit 911. He said his brother has just been called into active duty in Iraq. He said the film explains that the bin Laden family and Bush really put the war on for their own benefit, oil and military supply interests are making these characters rich.
I wonder if such a charge is justified and if so why is it being allowed? I have a greater faith in Americans not allowing such actions than that. Maybe I am just naive.
Michael

Hi Michael!

I refuse to take ANY political entertainment, as truth, but I do believe it's important to consider the posibilities!

I can't believe that the Bin-Laden family senario would not have been investigated by the Democratic party, were there any truth to this conspiracy theory. I mean, COME ON, that would be HUGE, EXPLOSIVE NEWS! Enough to blow Bush right out of the president's seat and into jail, in the blink of an eye. The democratic party and the news media, would be ALL OVER it.... unless, "gulp" they are in on it!

I DO KNOW that Michael Moore is not adverse, to methods of propaganda, sepculative truth-mixing and even intentional lying. He is not so honest, he is just trying to make his fortune, like any other, politician. He's no more honest, smarter, better, fatter, or less white, than Rush Limbaugh.

;-)
Moon

I can tell you for a FACT that the BS in this piece about the 2000 Florida Elections is enough for me to write off the entire piece, which has several other sections that are right out of the Neo-Con agenda on how to discredit people who support the "left" in order to makd the "right" appear better than it really is.

The author of this piece I am commenting on is totally unaware of the journalistic work of Greg Palast of the BBC and Randi Rhoads, WHO WAS THERE IN FLORIDA DURING THE 2000 ELECTIONS, and who SAW WITH HER OWN EYES what really happened, contrary to the silly assertions that those disenfranchised people in Florida were just felons and other criminals.

Michael Moore said (in essence) That his WHOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING THE FILM WAS TO MOTIVATE UNREGISTERED ELIGIBLE VOTERS TO GET OUT AND REGISTER TO VOTE, AND TO VOTE...

I could probably add that his intention was to encourage newly registered voters to THEN VOTE THIS MONSTER G.W. BUSH OUT OF OFFICE, although Michael never stated that.

Anybody who does not realize and understand that G.W. Bush LIED to the people of the United States of America, and DELIBERATELY MISLED the people of the US, and should be impeached just because of THAT, is either patently ignorant, totally illiterate, or was caught off guard by a man pretending to be doing something on behalf of those who were scared to death about what happened on 9-11-01.

That is part of the message Michael Moore contained in his recent film Farenheit 9/11, and even if Michael used a clip of G.W. Bush talking about terrorists in Israel, while playing golf, MATTERS NOT TO ME, since it portrays the man G.W. Bush at his NORMAL self, tossing out a bone to the Journalists, and then getting "back to the more important business" of his golfing. (Which is pathetic.)

Even those who WERE "caught off guard" by a man pretending to be doing something on behalf of those who were scared to death about what happened on 9-11-01, in my opinion, were totally uninformed on the issues surrounding the BS spewed out by G.W. Bush in his March 17th, 2003 address to the nation before he illegally went into the sovereign nation of Iraq and invaded it, in violation of the UN Charter and the US Constitution.

I am not going to waste any more of my time commenting on that piece, because it is filled with neo-con rhetoric (and THAT alone should tell me all I need to know) and is obviously targeted at the "left", which means FOR SURE that it is from those on the "right" who always (like toilet mouth Rush Limbagh always has) told their followers NOT to question what they say, or to do any research on their own, because they are always "right". Yeah, right.

The "right" has always used rhetoric, twisted facts and outright lies, repeatedly told to the population in the hopes that it will eventually be accepted as FACT, while the "left" has CONSISTENTLY driven social progress forward with showing what is true and important for positive growth of this nation, even if it has been peppered with the occasional exaggeration used to make a point WHICH NEEDS TO BE MADE.

Every (and I mean EVERY) Social advancement that was for the people, such as safety belts, child safety seats, clean air laws, old growth protection, endangered species protection laws, limits on the number of hours children could work in coal mines and other jobs, minimum wage laws, vehicle safety laws, smog emission laws, and the thousands of other laws protecting people, health and the environment, were ALL proposed by the "left", and all of those were fought against tooth and nail by the "right", which tells me all I NEED TO KNOW about which party is the most RIGHT, in the truest sense of the word.

Farenheit 9/11 is a film that rightfully won the top honor in the Cannes film festival, and will likely win other honors, because THERE ARE people here in this country and around the world who WILL NOT BE DUPED by the neo-con republicans or by pathetic lost souls such as G.W. Bush.


Trust the intention of the process.

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Trust the intention of the Process

During the Clinton Administration, the neo-con republicans and some true republicans set out to have Clinton impeached, right from the start, because they had wanted their man to win. Poor saps. There was not ONE SINGLE charge against Bill * or against Hillary Clinton made by the republican run media propaganda machine (All major medias in the US are owned by seven men, all republicans) that was true, although those charges made the headlines and caused lots of people to wonder about the Clintons.

* Only the charges that Bill Clinton had an affair with Monica L were true, but Bill was truthful when he said he did not have "sex" with her, according to the literal definition of the word. They still hounded him, though.

Now, the House and the Senate and the White House have been run by republicans, which are currently the dominent party.

Are you aware of the fact that the ONLY place the neo-con republicans and their media empire have allowed the democrats to voice their opinions openly and publicly is on C-Span, while the republicans speel out their rhetoric, half truths, lies, insinuations, and so forth every single day on their news channels, with newscasters who are also members of republican party funded groups pretending to represent American values, and so on?

Are you aware that the republicans in the House and in the Senate have prevented democrats from heading committees that they are eminently qualified to head, but which the republicans want to be in charge of?

Do you THINK FOR ONE MOMENT THAT IN A REPUBLICAN DOMINATED HOUSE AND SENATE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY CHANCE THAT G.W. BUSH COULD BE IMPEACHED, OR THAT THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE ANY KIND OF INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT HAPPENED WITH IRAQ?

Not a chance. Not one hope in hell. That's why it is a waste of time for any of those myriads of groups who want G.W. Bush impeached, and why those same groups would be spending their resources more wisely to get unregistered voters to get registered to vote, and to get out and vote.

The same thing applies for all those groups which want G.W. Bush convicted and tried by the International Criminal Court as an international terrorist and war criminal... WHICH HE IS... but which they will not have any chance to succeed, until after the elections, as long as there are more Democrats voted into office than republicans voted into office. Because if THAT happens, ole' G.W. will be impeached probably in the first 100 days if the man is elected Pres, if the House and Senate have a democratic majority.

If he is not elected Pres., well, he better start praying, because there will be people all around the world who want to see him tried and convicted of war crimes, the destruction of a 10,000 year old culture and the mass murders of tens of thousands * of innocent Iraqi civillians who were killed by US troops who went in there on the orders of an insane man who violated the US Constitution and the UN Charter, so he could get back at Saddam Hussein and so his friends, and the close friends of Dick Cheney could clean up the terrible mess and make billions doing so.

* Recent estimates from non-partisan sources are min. of 40,000 innocent Iraqi civillians killed, to as many as 60,000. For the record, the US figures so far are: over 800 battlefield fatalities, 18,000 casualties, and scores of non-battlefield fatalities not recorded as fatalities because they DID NOT DIE ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
Thanks, G.W. Sheeesh. What a man.

Trust the intention of the process.

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DE,

"I can tell you for a FACT that the BS in this
piece about the 2000
Florida Elections is enough for me to write off
the entire piece"

I agree, DE.... there is BS in ALL extreme, political propaganda!

As long as we are caught up in this kind of drama, we continue to create more of the same.

Moon

Bless you, dear heart. I totally agree. Totally.


Trust the intention of the process.

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Trust the intention of the Process

DE and Michael I don't read this kind of post the title tells me it's the right wing noise machine at work. We stop arguing with one and they send in another to try to disrupt with arguments. Let them comment on their own posts. Nothing you are I say will change what she or the other right wingers think. And Michael go to Moores site and read and then listen to the right wing and make your own judgment. My experience with this poster has taught me to just not read what she posts.


Th'goddess!

Amen DE!


Th'goddess!

"DE and Michael I don't read this kind of post the title tells me it's the right wing noise machine at work. We stop arguing with one and they send in another to try to disrupt with arguments. Let them comment on their own posts. Nothing you are I say will change what she or the other right wingers think. And Michael go to Moores site and read and then listen to the right wing and make your own judgment. My experience with this poster has taught me to just not read what she posts." Th'Goddess
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Well, stating the obvious, posts like these violate the EB rules of respect. Attempting to disfranchise and drive wedges between members of this community is a sad task. Contrary to what you may believe, not all posters may need you to decide for them whom they should and should not ignore. It's insulting. And to speak of members here in the third person adds insult to injury.

Aside form that, again you missed the point of a post. Odd too that if you indeed 'did not' read it and felt informed enough to launch into this pointed attack against another poster, it implies a lack of credibility. One does not gain information or knowledge from titles.

You seem to be afraid to find a peaceful way to co-exist with others of difference, refusing to acknowledge their existance in some cases, or their basic right to personal belief, equal to your own. Many here have not always agreed with you. No one has suggested that another member ignore you. Your personal battle against me, Pegasus, Jeanne, and others is a losing one. We are only symbols of the many who do not share your full view of the world and the people in it. Nor will the masses succumb to your angry mislabeling of others as 'conservative right wingers', 'new agers', or 'trouble makers'. It only reveals your inner unrest with the world and frustration at not feeling you are being heard. "Don't listen to them, listen to me." Hence the exclamation mark by your name? Just an observation. People on all sides share in your desire to make the world a better place. The fact is, until we all amazingly one day see the same light and interpret it in the same way, we have to learn how to get along and not continue to create a greater divide.

Just like the fundamentalists you so despise... to find a way to live side by side with others of difference, you will have to risk letting go of who you are today. Refusal to change and engage things that are different place one's spirit in bondage. Impedes peace. Everything changes and evolves. All of us. Every living thing.

Here's a (((HUG))). I know you don't want it, but I'm giving them away today. Feel free to reject it if you must. However, please remember, "If you post here expect it to be responded to."

Many Blessings to You,
Deb



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