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Old 12-30-2013, 07:25 AM
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During the interview, SM asked questions related to the concept of "time" (linear v. non, etc.) but Carter never really had a satisfactory answer--if that is even possible.

I know in my posts as of late, i've been quoting a lot from Norman Fischer's Sailing Home: Using the Wisdom of Homer's Odyssey to Navigate Life's Perils and Pitfalls, but it just repeatedly and synchronistically keeps addressing topics I hear about here and other places. Here's a passage about "time" that is a good addition to Shirley's questions and conversation with Carter:

"Even when periods of meditation are exactly as long as advertised, you can still experience this sense of time's thickness and uncanniness. You can experience it at other times, too, such as a birth or a death, or when you first hear powerfully good or bad news. At such moments time seems to be swept away entirely; a black hole opens and swallows it. This is not an illusion. Time is not nearly as well organized as we think it is; it really does have these odd gaps and chunks. Time doesn't flow neatly along a smooth continuum or horizontal "time line," with the past at the far left (since our Indo-European langauge reads from left to right) running to the present in the center and future at the far right. We take time for granted as a neat, even, neutral, constant container for our experiences. But this perception isn't correct or real. Time slows, speeds, or stops, according to the flow of your life. The view of time that you are conditioned to, in which your subjective sense of time is subservient to what the clock or calendar says, is a fairly recent invention. Time is not what clocks measure; time is what we experience as life, and as such it belongs more to the realm of the mysterious and the sacred than to the world of science and measurement.

Mystics from spiritual traditions know this. They point out that God, Enlightenment, Oneness, or whatever you call it, which is both in time and beyond time, is encountered in the gap moments when time opens up in a transport that contains past present and future all at once or none of these. They also point out that sequential time is everywhere subject to divine violation, the past sometimes arriving lively and dripping into the present, the future from time to time bleeding into the past. 'Time is not a storm moving across the sky from East to West,' Zen Master Dogen writes. 'Time is being itself.' . . ."


I love how Fischer places "time" squarely within the jurisdiction of the divine, don't you? And the image of the past "lively dripping into the present" and the "future bleeding" into the past like the infamous Salvador Dali clocks is "divine" in and of itself, no?

namaste from the midwest,
"I wasn't going to spend my life doing what had already been done." - Georgia O'Keeffe
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