07-28-2012, 05:29 PM
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Astrology Western & Eastern
I like to write about very important issue that is the use of Western astrology in present day. Especially when it comes to planetary positions as they are now moving in our sky.
There are many people currently using tropical zodiac system popular in western astrology and misleading people into following their ignorance.
The time has come to unveil the hidden truth and act from knowledge not from ignorance where the secret societies, and other groups wanted to keep humanity in Dark Age.
Yes the unaware masses were mislead by the priesthoods who knew the truth but kept it secret for over 3000 years. I urge you to search, read, and evaluate this knowledge. Here I bring some of information that may just inspire you to search for the truth.
Ptolemy who in his time was astronomer and astrologer is regarded as the Father of Western astrology. His main treatise the Tetrabiblos, served as the main reference astrology book for most western astrologers for nearly 2000 years.
When Ptolemy was on Earth around first century AD the vernal point –March Equinox did take place in the constellation of Aries. But that point no longer is in Aries as it has moved one degree every 72 years in past 2 thousand years and is now about 5 degree Pisces.
But Western astrology is stuck in the past and for two thousand years followers use the fix point of 0 Aries as point of Vernal Equinox. You may wonder why is it so?
But this is well known by Secret Teachings of many mystery schools of the past like Masons, Rosicrucian and other who only allowed the true knowledge to their students.
I like to bring here small Quotes from Book ‘ An Encyclopedic outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy’ by Manly P. Hall.
Quotes from chapter’ The Zodiac and its Signs:
“Each year the sun passes entirely around the zodiac and returns to the point from which it started- the vernal equinox- and each year it falls just a little short of making the complete circle of the heavens in the allotted period of time. As a result, it crosses the equator just a little behind the spot in the zodiacal sign where it crossed the previous year. Each sign of the zodiac consists of thirty degrees, and as the sun loses about one degree every seventy two years, it regresses through one entire constellation (or sign) in approximately 2160 years and through the entire zodiac in about 25 920 years. This retrograde motion is called the precession of the equinoxes”
“ Among the ancients the sun was always symbolised by the figure and nature of the constellation through which it passed at the vernal equinox. For nearly the past 2000 years the sun has crossed the equator at the vernal equinox in the constellation of Pisces (the two Fishes). For the 2160 years before that it crossed through the constellations of Aries (the Ram) Prior to that vernal equinox was in the Taurus (the Bull)” end of quote.
So the ancient civilisation have recognised the true position of vernal equinox in their own time. Why our Western civilisation does not recognise that on 21 March when Sun crosses ecliptic it is not 0 degree Aries. Or is this the manipulation of masses. It shows in the book that constellation Aries the Ram was called ‘Lamb of the God’- but also is the symbol of Shepard and sheep.
Another quote from “An Encyclopedic outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy’ by Manly P. Hall.
“ There for, the Lamb of God is a title given to the sun, who is said to be reborn every year in the Northern Hemisphere in the sign of the Ram, although, due to the existing discrepancy between the signs of the zodiac and actual star groups, it actually rises in the sign of Pisces.”
“ There are two distinct systems of astrological philosophy. One of them the Ptolemaic is geocentric: the earth is considered the centre of the solar system, around which the sun, moon, and planets revolve. Astronomically, the geocentric system is incorrect.”
“ The other system of astrological philosophy is called the heliocentric. This posits the sun in the centre of the solar system, where it naturally belongs, with the planets and their moons revolving about it.”
“The important point to be remembered is that when the sun was said to be in a certain sign of the zodiac, the ancients really meant that the sun occupied the opposite sign and cast its long ray into the house in which they enthroned it. Therefore when itis said that the sun is in Taurus, it means (astronomically) that the sun is in the opposite to Taurus, which is Scorpio. This resulted in two distinct schools of philosophy: one geocentric and exoteric, the other heliocentric and esoteric.
While the ignorant multitudes worshiped the house of the sun’s reflection, which in the case described would be the Bull, the wise revered the house of the sun’s actual dwelling, which would be the Scorpion, or Serpent the symbol of the concealed spiritual mystery.”
“The astrologers distinguished Leo as the sole house of the sun and taught that the world was created when the sun was in that sign. The lion was adored in the East and the West by the Egyptians and the Mexicans. The chief Druid of Britain was styled a lion.’(Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.) When the Aquarian Age is thoroughly established, the sun will be in Leo, as will be noted from the explanation previously given in this chapter regarding the distinction between geocentric and heliocentric astrology. Than, indeed, will the secret religions of the world include once more the raising to initiation by the Grip of the Lion’s Paw.” End of quote.
Here I like to bring some websites That You may like to see the difference Ptolemy vs. Copernicus:
So the knowledge of the Solar system has progressed but why Western people are not aware of true position of planets and stars as in Sidereal zodiac that is the base of Vedic astrology for over 5000 years.
When 200 years ago some Eastern knowledge was translated into English in books they put the wrong astrological perception of tropical zodiac instead staying true to Eastern knowledge.
More on Ptolemy here is example I bring from this site;
Ptolemy wrote a four-volume book about astrology. His serious treatment of the subject helped to spread the study of astrology.
In 1977, Robert R. Newton published his book The Crime of Claudius Ptolemy in which he accused Ptolemy of being the “most successful fraud in history”. Newton charged Ptolemy with faking the observations of his predecessors to better suit his theory. The historians of science said that the figures Ptolemy quoted were the ones who agreed the best with his theory out of a larger body of observers. Their conclusion, however, is that the case against Ptolemy is not proven.
Its time for more people to progressed with times and express the true placement of planets of our time. Let go of fixed point in space and start riding with the change. There are many wise open-minded teachers who understand true astronomy and astrology that are currently writing books and in their sites valid information.
One of such I am aware of is:
I recommend that you open your mind and read this article on Sidereal Astrology
The Tropical and Sidereal Zodiacs & The Cycle of Earth's Precessional Cross