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Brit 07-02-2013 09:18 AM

Clifford Carnicom
This Sunday, July 7th, tune in for a great discussion with Shirley and Clifford Carnicom...

Especially if you want to know more about chemtrails and geoengineering.

Learn more here:

Should be fascinating!!!
6 PM PDT - 9 PM EDT and always in the archives!

renaissance 07-02-2013 12:38 PM

Oooooo! This sounds really interesting Brit and Shirl! Looking forward to listening to Shirley engaging in conversation with Clifford Carnicom! This topic is soooo important and you know it' a fave of mine.I am deeply concerned about the complete lack of transparency by worldwide govt's. and their military industrial complexes using our skies for experiments(for decades) without any public input what-so-ever!! Goodluck Shirl!!Woot woot!! ;)

Wolfdog 07-07-2013 08:05 PM

Great interview Shirley !Thank you. This issue absolutely does not get enough debate and it seems when it comes up so many shy away from it. I, too have been real concerned about this for a number of years and have clearly seen chemtrails both in the Palm Springs area and in Los Angeles, where it is very clear to me that in recent months this spraying has definitely been increased.
When I first saw them while visiting a desert wildlife museum near Palm Springs, I pointed them out to the environmental engineer I was with and he kept saying the they were contrails yet... these were clearly moving vertically from ground to sky(or vice versa) and not horizontally. He refused to listen. I am writing this as some here may not have seen them and the difference between contrails and chemtrails is very, very clear. In LA the sky resembles kind of a cris crossed checkerboard not the obvious horizontal contrails.
We might start by making some real noise by writing all of our representatives not only in Washington but, local ones as well and demanding some explanations. I've checked out HAARP and their site is extraordinarily elusive. We might flood them with mail as well... because if for 15 years Mr.Carnicom 's questions have been ignored (probably because he does have the background in science and specifically in Chemistry)...then it is as you demonstrated very clear most likely one of the greatest subterfuges in the history of mankind. The kind of money going into black ops kind of things is no doubt being served up by the taxpayers of many countries, who do deserve to know just what we are financing and/or what those in charge actually have as their prime directives.


A Dreamer 07-11-2013 01:21 PM

This is a 45 minute film on geo-engineering. I hope you will all take the time to watch. It also explains HAARP; what is and how it's being used. Our planet is dying. We are dying. The planet may be able to recover if all of this is stopped...now.



renaissance 07-29-2013 12:04 PM

Thanx for sharing your info Wolfdog and Dreamer. I could see and feel your frustration Shirley and Mr.carnicom's as well,(he's very didactic in Nature for sure) in not being able to identify who 'THEY' is!! I've been researching geo-engineering ,specifically stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering S.A.G. and believe me the most difficult thing to determine 100% is who "They' are!!!
Here is a young lady and whistleblower ,Kristen Meghen and her latest YouTube talk,which might verify atad more about who "they' is. Dang I wish I had the capability to take shots via my astro-telescope but it's not set up for that and you have to aim for where you think the plane is heading LOL!! Rosalind Peterson of California Skywatch has a great website and has done quite a few interviews as well. Good luck and enjoy the search! ,looking up,Renny


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