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Samcrawford 07-23-2012 09:10 AM

The Greys
 
Hi gang,

I was talking with friends over the weekend who were asking me about my new found interest in star beings and we got to talking about the Greys. One friend asked, "Should we be afraid of them?" and it's a question I thought I'd ask to the community here before I gave him an answer. For me, they're not frightening. I recently read "Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls" by Nigel Kerner and I've read Timothy Good's "Need to Know" which I found really informative, yet I couldn't be scared of Greys. The idea of abduction or experimentation doesn't alarm me either, I can't buy into the idea that extra-terrestrials are hostile and set on destroying us. I figure they would have done it by now, they wouldn't wait until our technology was such that we could fight back. I see them more as scientists trying to learn about us. So, I wanted to ask what people's thoughts were on the Greys and whether they're fearful of them or not?

tecrow 07-24-2012 10:17 AM

Maybe we should...
 
Sam,
Here are some bits and pieces of things I have read over the years, which may or may not be correct:
  • Eisenhower signed a treaty with the greys in 1954. In the agreement, the greys would give us their technology, and in exchange we would allow them to abduct a certain number of people (with a special blood type, is what seems to be happening) for their hybrid program.
  • The Nordics gave us the same offer to exchange technology, but they wanted us to give up our weapons. It being so soon after the war, and the real possibility of alien involvement with the Nazis, Eisenhower took the deal with the greys instead, but they are not considered the good guys. They have abused the treaty by abducting more people than was agreed upon.
  • We are on the outskirts of the galaxy, so the aliens that show up may or may not have our best interests at heart. Evidently, there are good greys and not so good greys.
Obviously, I have no way of knowing if any of this is true. Sorry if this is just a repeat.

I had a dream in which I was about to shake the hand of a grey, but a force came down between us to break off the possibility of a handshake, and then I heard, "They don't have a heart." At least in the dream, I didn't have a fear of them either, but from the few things I have read, I am not so sure that is wise. It seemed to be lucid dream.

Is there anything new as far as disclosure happening any time soon? It has been a while since I have heard any predictions as far as a timetable.

Samcrawford 07-24-2012 01:29 PM

Thanks for your reply tecrow, I hadn't really considered the possibility of good greys and bad so that's shed a new light on it. In my reading so far, I've got the impression "Nordics good, Greys bad" but I suppose that's far too 'Disney' an attitude to take. Your dream experience is fascinating, if I can ask, did you hear the ET talk to you at all? Was there any kind of message?

tecrow 07-24-2012 01:45 PM

Grey Dream
 
Hi Sam,

I actually heard it. It was a female voice. On occasion, I do hear things in my dreams. For example, I heard loud ringing bells recently, so loud they woke me up. I guess this can be either good or bad. I read that in India close, loud sounding bells is a good sign, but if they are in the distance, its not so good. I sure could use some good news! :D

S_Amberly 07-25-2012 04:38 PM

I have had a couple of experiences that MAY have been with Greys, but I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't some other astral being that just looked like grays either objectively or just from my point of view.

Neither were positive experiences, both were frightening, but it did seem that they were just curious and tinkering with me for some reason. Experimenting? I didn't get the impression that they were doing anything out of malice.

I don't tend they (as a race) have anything particular against us (as a race), but who knows about individuals.

sisterlura 07-25-2012 05:19 PM

This is a very interesting discussion! For me, as long as I can remember I've had dreams of the Greys, even as a little kid - and the mental picture hasn't changed a bit over the years. I've never been "scared" of them - but I don't perceive them as being warm and friendly, either. I remain curious ... and, I admit, somewhat cautious about any desire to leap aboard one of their ships and take off with them! (I'm also not sure I'd even offer then tea :eek: )

(Thanks for the reminder of the Eisenhower treaty, tecrow ~ I'd forgotten about that!)

:rolleyes:

Samcrawford 07-28-2012 04:14 AM

Thanks for sharing guys! I hadn't had any connection with the Greys until last night. I had a dream where I felt perfectly awake. In the corner of my room, a large Grey dressed in a long robe stood with one arm outstretched. Looking into his eyes, I panicked and became quite frightened so I managed to force myself awake. Then I went back to sleep and had exactly the same dream. This happen twice more and eventually I calmed myself down and accepted that I would dream about this being who was now hovering over me. I felt frightened until the Grey actually touched me and then I felt nothing, no fear and no excitement. The Grey left and my usual dream pattern returned. I'm not sure what to make of it but certainly it felt exceptionally vivid.

I find the responses here really fascinating on a new level now because I'm beginning to process the idea that last night I was visited. I had a theory that because of the Olympic Games being held not far from where I live, we might see increased UFO activity because of the vibration of a large number of people in a positive mood. Maybe I was proved right? :D

Chi 07-28-2012 11:54 AM

me too; a couple of years ago.
i remember being lifted into space in horizontal position
and two aliens with large heads that almost looked like
insect heads appeared, side by side (to my right). They
were staring at me curiously and very calmly. i remember
feeling paralyzed, but there was no pain; and as far as
i know, they did not harm me in any way. They didn't
seem malicious, but they weren't exactly exuding love
and light either. i posted about it here somewhere.
And then lord knows what contact i had with them
during my early youth; i can't remember. but i know we
were in all the right places at the right times. We were
stationed at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico
near White Sands and Roswell from 5yrs old to 7yrs old
(the very early 60's). i spent alot of time at White Sands.
i'm not sure what my father did while we were stationed
there. But he took me to work with him in the evening
a few times. It was a place where they kept the monkeys
they used for the space program. They were in large
cages that they would rattle and climb up on, screeching.
My father would feed them and then we would leave.
Until i was about 6 yrs old my dreams were of swirling
colors; only swirling colors. and sometimes i would wake
up disorientated and frightened. i remember having
these swirling color dreams as young as 2 yrs old.
It wasn't until i was 6 or 7 that i began to dream of
adults i did not know who seemed to know me.
i wish i could remember now, the particulars of those
dreams. i can't help thinking that maybe some long
forgotten insight or deep knowing was in them because
i seemed to be half here and half someplace else.
i don't think i had my first dream of someone i knew
until i was around 8 or 9.
Shortly after Sept 11, i began to have visions of light
beings on the ground at ground zero. In one vision
i was with hundreds of them floating just above
ground zero in space way up into outer space; a light
being myself (a vortex has been created there).
And around that time was when some of my past lives
were starting to be revealed to me through a series of
ongoing synchronicities.
And a few years after that i found myself channeling some
sort of Pleaidian energy; it was just coming through me
like transmissions; it was me but it wasn't me. i posted
some of them here somewhere.
It has to do with our ET DNA (our scientists have been
calling it junk. ); i'm firmly convinced now that we
all have some of it activated in us; some of us more
than others. And the activations continue. Feels like a
natural process; you know? Synonymous with the
gradual expansion of human consciousness occurring
across the planet. And it starts with a little help that
we sometimes remember and sometimes don't.
As for the greys; perhaps it's just that they are devoid
of emotion (like Mister Spock. ) and because we
we are their complete opposites in that department;
it's part of what makes them so curious about us.
And then there's how we look and how our body's work.
The funny thing here is they are as peculiar to us as we
are to them and we've been known to abduct them too,
for probing and examination, for the same reasons.
Joy and Light,
Chi

Samcrawford 07-28-2012 01:32 PM

Thanks for sharing Chi! I don't know where to start, that was really informative. Can I ask a question? And maybe throw it out to the others who have replied here too? What was your initial response to contact? For me, it was fear but I wonder how quickly that dissipated? I stopped being fearful the moment I realised that I'd been putting the thought out there that I wanted to see what was in our skies. I'd asked the questions, here was the answer. I suppose it's that fight or flight gene within us. Part of me never wants the fear factor again, the other part wants to see the being again until I understand more. Is that natural do we think?

Chi 07-28-2012 05:26 PM

Well for me,
i don't remember most of the "insect head" ET encounter; only the very
beginning and the very end. The first thing i saw and the last thing i saw
were almost the same and what transpired in between was lost to me.
But in hindsight (now that you ask the questions) i think it's possible
that it was my own intense fear that caused my inability to move. And
if so, then i can certainly see how they might find the paralysis that
most of us exhibit (in their presence) to be one of the many curious
things they observe about our behavior. Too funny...
i think our curiosity is as natural as theirs.

My initial reaction to the light beings however was totally opposite.
It was a feeling of profound peace and calm and well being. They're
just as powerful, but they draw you into a very high vibrational zone
that feels profoundly benevolent and you feel very safe. They are
like angels and you remember every second. of your own being
with them. i'll go with them ANYwhere. Huge Grin...

My questions is (to those who have had encounters) do you notice
any changes in your consciousness since the encounter? Any
synchronicities leading to other synchronicities? Any messages?

Joy and Light,
Chi

Basia 07-28-2012 09:16 PM

Dear Hearts

Like humanity we have good and bad a duality of experience. So ET they have the same I think we can not judge the book by the cover and if we need that experience to learn we will attract it to us.

In 90-es when I was working with spiritual guides I had some experiences that I would call ET. I saw myself in meditation or dreams often being on space ships.

I was aware they were doing something in my head, I was never frighten of them and I saw them both like humans and like oval head with big eyes.



I used to do a crystal balancing and healing therapy and I am aware now that in some cases they were working on my patients who were healed. My boyfriend than Christian would tell me that he woke up in the night and could not move but he saw them with big eyes doing something around me. Christian had x-ray that showed something in his toe on right leg like an implant. He also said that before we meet he dreamt of ET and they were showing him my picture,that was in May 1996.

Once I wake up in the night and had a strange marking on my left hand, a raw of tiny cuts that were still fresh open. Next day I went to my mum and showed it to her and to my surprise she lifted a plaster in the same spot on her hand reviling same cuts.



I also had once a visit from ‘Men in Black’ in my meditation. On that day I was doing a crystal balancing for a friend who went to meditate in haunted house. The energy attached itself to him, and during crystal balancing I saw truly something impossible.

When energy was captured into crystal I saw that crystal moved in the air up about inch or two above the table and than dropped on the table making big bang sound.

That evening when I meditated two men dressed in black come into my room from the wall and said to me: “don’t worry we only come to take something for recycling”.

My guide explained later that often energy will be taken to be purified in fire.


In 2003 I attended a seminar in Australia with a school from US. For many years I read books and listen to many tape recordings from that school.

But during one session in seminar when I totally surrender my body I felt that there was another being of a reptilian appearance that was ready to jump in and take control of my body.


From within me the voice come saying to that form: You are not getting this body!
I left the seminar and had lots of questions about my experience & trust. My guides guided me to 'Cosmic Explores' by Courtney Brown and I got much understanding and answers to my questions from this book.

I just found this website and you can download this book for free.
http://www.courtneybrown.com/public.../explorers.html

In Cosmic Explorers, Dr. Brown takes his research a critical step further, in a riveting true story that expands humanity's journey into the deepest mysteries of the cosmos. Based on unprecedented information drawn from Scientific Remote Viewing (SRV), Cosmic Explorers continues the search for extraterrestrial life, and sounds and important warning.

The U.S. military has long used remote viewing as a means of spying on potential or actual enemies. Dr. Brown developed the technique further, producing uncannily accurate information about verifiable targets. Now he applies these techniques in an unusual direction, and speculates that the remnants of a Martian race may be struggling to survive in burried recesses on their own devastated planet, and he further explores the idea that the Greys - a seemingly highly evolved humanoid race - may be seeking a new future for themselves.


He also raises the possibility of yet a third previously unknown alien civilization: a warlike race that may have its own frightening agenda for our planet.

Through detailed descriptions of actual SRV sessions, Dr. Brown provides a rare glimpse into the possible structure and culture of this aggressive race, the Reptilians, including the nature of their heirarchy, their home world, and their covert activities. He also takes us deeper into the secret worlds of the Greys and the Martians, whose ongoing crises could have a profound effect on the people of Earth.

A comprehensive experimental study of alien cultures using a novel methodology, a detailed description of the methods of SRV, and a fascinating account of one man's odyssey into the unknown, Cosmic Explorers probes the dangers that lie before us - and tells us what we must do to defend and ensure our future.






tecrow 07-29-2012 09:56 AM

Dr. Tucker and Reincarnation, Also the Greys
 
Last night I watched a show on the BIO channel about a little boy about 6 who claimed to be the reincarnation of an actor in Hollywood - Marty Martyn. His parents contacted Dr. Jim Tucker (Virginia) who has researched and documented 2500 child patients who claim to have memories of past lives. I can't remember the name of the show -- something like The Unexplained possibly. The boy remembered his wife, sister and daughter, and so the parents brought him to meet his former family who were now much older. He also began to remember other lives, too. I have been interested in reincarnation ever since the books Bridey Murphy and Out on a Limb. I would like to hear about more cases like this.


Also, about the greys, I believe it was Clifford Stone who testified for the Disclosure Project that the greys have a base of sorts under the Pentagon. Maybe they just have offices. :) The show Chasing Aliens just had Stone on recently. It's no wonder he gets so emotional during his testimony (as he did on air and at the May 2001 National Press Club press conference), they sent him in first to check for radiation at the crash sites and to check for who knows what else! '

These dreams seem a bit more real than usual dreams. Interesting.

Samcrawford 07-30-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:
My questions is (to those who have had encounters) do you notice
any changes in your consciousness since the encounter? Any
synchronicities leading to other synchronicities? Any messages?


tecrow, you raise a good point, the dreams we all seem to have experienced are alot more vivid than usual. Last night I had trouble sleeping so I took to looking out of the window up at the stars and noticed what looked like a star but was darting around pretty quickly. It disappeared after about 5 minutes but had been zipping through the stars fairly sharply. I believe that there's increased ET activity here at the moment and that my dream was a kind of preliminary visit. I have had trouble sleeping since that dream but it's been easier to meditate and relax even if I can't drift off into a deep sleep as of yet.

Samcrawford 07-30-2012 01:12 PM

This really is quite strange. I had a feeling this would happen, I just knew that there'd be some kind of increase in sightings as we hosted the Games here in London. To me, it seems that the large number of people gathered together projecting good energy and excitement proved too interesting for star beings not to witness! Based on what I saw last night too, it's quite wonderful to hear this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-ceremony.html

tecrow 08-04-2012 05:01 AM

Remote Viewing & Sighting
 
Thanks! I didn't know about the sighting Friday night or the book "Cosmic Explorers." I have read most of "Miracles of Mind" by Targ and Katra, but it was a while ago. I have often wondered about what the remote viewers are seeing on other planets! I imagine the diversity is mind blowing, not just their appearance, but their social structure, etc. The universe is pretty amazing and we only know a tiny fraction of what is going on in spirit or the material plane.

I need to read through all of these posts again. I wonder if the huge balls of light seen in the sky are actual beings, as the new version of The Day the Earth Stood Still seems to suggest.

I met a man who was in the Air Force who said he and some other airmen spent 9 days in a ditch pointing guns at a huge ball of light hovering over a base in the north. Whenever I meet someone retired from the Air Force, I ask them what they have seen. So far, most have seen or know about something or say, "it's classified." You know they want to tell someone. Usually, their security oaths have expired so they can talk.

We have probably already been invaded! This cloak of secrecy will no doubt get us in the end! I wonder, do any of these guys hanging on to secrets ever think about that?!!

Basia 08-04-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tecrow
Thanks! I didn't know about the sighting Friday night or the book "Cosmic Explorers." I have read most of "Miracles of Mind" by Targ and Katra, but it was a while ago. I have often wondered about what the remote viewers are seeing on other planets! I imagine the diversity is mind blowing, not just their appearance, but their social structure, etc. The universe is pretty amazing and we only know a tiny fraction of what is going on in spirit or the material plane.

I need to read through all of these posts again. I wonder if the huge balls of light seen in the sky are actual beings, as the new version of The Day the Earth Stood Still seems to suggest.

I met a man who was in the Air Force who said he and some other airmen spent 9 days in a ditch pointing guns at a huge ball of light hovering over a base in the north. Whenever I meet someone retired from the Air Force, I ask them what they have seen. So far, most have seen or know about something or say, "it's classified." You know they want to tell someone. Usually, their security oaths have expired so they can talk.

We have probably already been invaded! This cloak of secrecy will no doubt get us in the end! I wonder, do any of these guys hanging on to secrets ever think about that?!!


Hi Tecrow
I agree with your comments, and secrets do have a way to become exposed sooner or latter. But in all this I understand the diversity of experience.

There is need to experience both sides in order to recognise it.
Someone can tell you don't touch it, it's hot but unless you touch it you do not know what hot is.
So is the experience gained and learned on a soul level about polarity.

When we debate different propability its not to express fear it is only to educate, and empower so we do not get involved in fear mode.

The ET like humans are evolving so they learn from experience.

Long time ago my friend and I used to meditate and he shared many visions of him being on space ship. He was told that there is a real Star Wars going on in space, Earth is not the only planet where we learn.But all experience is united in one consciousness and all souls seek that journey home.

tecrow 08-09-2012 05:07 PM

Real Star Wars
 
Yes, our ancient religious texts talk about these wars in the skies and even newspapers in the 1500s. Perhaps things have never changed over the centuries. Perhaps our rulers and presidents are really just puppets to the alien overlords. Let's just hope one or several of them are looking out for us.
I really don't think we were be here otherwise. :eek:

Basia 08-11-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tecrow
Yes, our ancient religious texts talk about these wars in the skies and even newspapers in the 1500s. Perhaps things have never changed over the centuries. Perhaps our rulers and presidents are really just puppets to the alien overlords. Let's just hope one or several of them are looking out for us.
I really don't think we were be here otherwise. :eek:


Hi Tecrow

Just in sync with this topic I was reading this week in Shirley's book Sageing while Aging in chapter 7 very interesting information well research by Shirley.

I like the encounter of Denis at the end of this chapter about the triangular craft because many years ago this is what happened to a friend of mine when he saw some shape craft from his balcony. Soon after my friend started having incredible opening and very strong visual perception that he was gifted with when we meditated together. One of such visions I posted on my blog. Here is link:
http://galacticdoor2011.blog.com/20.../cheops-secret/


But I like to say that we are guided and like Shirley said we need to fix our planet in order to learn from "mistakes" not really just a learning conditions.

For some reason I do not fear Grey's even when I watched some U-tube of the alien I feel some kind of relation, understanding, feel sorry that they been captured and study by humanity. I 'am also preparing myself that I may have my own ET encounters this Summer when I go back to country cottage that is in the middle of nowhere and perfect place for contact.

sisterlura 08-15-2012 11:30 AM

okay ... so since we're on the subject of The Greys, I found this interesting:

Got a book catalogue in the mail from Inner Traditions yesterday, and there's a new book out, titled Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls: The Conspiracy to Genetically Tamper With Humanity, by Nigel Kerner.

The description claims that "Grey aliens are sophisticated biological robots who seek to obtain human souls. Through the manipulation of DNA, these aliens hope to create their own souls and escape the material universe. But if we follow spiritual laws, we can free ourselves from their grasp."

It's a $28 paperback, 504 pages and includes 24-page color insert.

YIKES!!! :eek:

Basia 08-15-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterlura
okay ... so since we're on the subject of The Greys, I found this interesting:

Got a book catalogue in the mail from Inner Traditions yesterday, and there's a new book out, titled Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls: The Conspiracy to Genetically Tamper With Humanity, by Nigel Kerner.

The description claims that "Grey aliens are sophisticated biological robots who seek to obtain human souls. Through the manipulation of DNA, these aliens hope to create their own souls and escape the material universe. But if we follow spiritual laws, we can free ourselves from their grasp."

It's a $28 paperback, 504 pages and includes 24-page color insert.

YIKES!!! :eek:

Thanks for this book Sisterlura, as I was reading this now a inner voice said: its important to follow the inner knowing without fear. There are other forces on Earth that are puting misleading information that is than absorbed by untrained minds. The practice of meditation and deeper contemplation puts you in touch with the inner voice and with the power of what you may call God. This practice strenghtens your own power and gives you ability to recognise the truth or as you may say right or wrong in polarity.
To be guided from within is the important development of humanity at this time so learn to listen to that voice and stay tuned to it each day."

I think I just channelled this last part.

My personal feeling is that grey ET are more in tune with our purpose on Earth but I have a personal strong feeling of being aware of Reptilian ET that may not be as beneficial for human cause on Earth. But this is only my personal interpretation based on some experience I had in past. Love & Light.

Samcrawford 08-16-2012 03:19 AM

I bought Kerner's book but found it impossible to read after the first few chapters. It's very fear-led and that's a shame because it becomes uncomfortable to read. I could tolerate it if the information outweighed the negative but sadly it doesn't.

sisterlura 08-16-2012 10:51 AM

Interesting! Thanks for the review, Sam -- you re-enforced my instinct to steer clear of that book!

;)

tecrow 08-31-2012 06:34 PM

Checking In and Remote Viewing on I.E. Radio
 
Hi Everyone,

Sorry I haven't checked in lately. I am watching a UFO show now-- you know -- Friday night, so I remembered that I haven't been back here in a while. Too much going on. I need to catch up on I.E. Radio, too. Looks like there will be a show on remote viewing this Sunday.

I had been interested in RV quite a while back and had been reading books and listening to Psychic Warrior -- I think that was the name of the book. A little time after that, I experienced seeing a black amorphous shadow around our house. I thought it was my imagination. One night it grabbed at me. I thought, oh well, it didn't have an effect on me and went back to bed. A day or so later, my son, who was 15 at the time said,"Who is that black dude hanging around the house!!!! Okay, so it wasn't my imagination!! One day I sensed it in the garage and screamed at it to go away. I haven't seen it since. I have always wondered if it was a remote viewer messing with us. Any ideas, anyone?!

I have been watching the shows on Bio -- Celebrity Ghost Stories, and others where they have capture dark shadows. Very strange, but it's true. They exist. That's my ghost or "whatever" story.

I have a lot of catch up to do on reading. Thanks for the recommendations and warnings.

So glad for this site. Much thanks to Shirley and staff, too!


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